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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 2774794" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>Really? That's not what I'm reading.</p><p></p><p>And no, it hasn't been a theme all along.</p><p></p><p>Want to know how a lot of us got into publishing?</p><p></p><p>By another publisher saying: "Wow, this stuff is good, have you ever thought of publishing?"</p><p></p><p>What <strong>I believe</strong> jg was saying is:</p><p></p><p>If publishers works are going to be placed up thier free, the majority of publishers will pack it in, or drop out, as they won't be able to recoup costs on a simple PDF, and many print publishers will close up as they will realize that the mechanics of any book they create will hit the Wiki within a week.</p><p></p><p>There won't be any publishers who won't supply totally closed content.</p><p></p><p>Nice turn around.</p><p></p><p>You seem to be of the opinion that if it's from publishers, it's evil, because all publishers are just a good ol' boys club who back each other up and try to keep everyone else from publishing or enjoying stuff.</p><p></p><p>Some people seem to be saying we created our stuff from a free source, so it has no value and we should give it away anyway.</p><p></p><p>A lot of people act like because you use the SRD to create something, you should give everything away, and that it should be free for use by everyone.</p><p></p><p>THAT'S what's upsetting people.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? You're the one who has misrepresented how easy it is to become a self-publisher, making it sound as if all kinds of barriers have been erected to keep people out, when in fact both distributors and existing publishers bend over backwards to help people. A lot of your threads and other people's seem to center around villanizing publishers who don't want all of thier hard work and effort to be put up for free three days after they put it out.</p><p></p><p>I can understand thier viewpoint, and people constantly painting publishers as ogres sitting on top of treasure saying: "MINE!" while smashing other people with a club unless they can climb onto the stack, is blatantly smearing them with an undue image.</p><p></p><p>I believe that should an OGC Wiki that contains everything connected to the SRD come out, that posts stuff regardless of release date, author's wishes, and other restrictions, will eventually result in many publishers packing it in.</p><p></p><p>Contrary to popular belief, it is EXPENSIVE to put out a good looking PDF. Artists costs usually aren't paid for till about half way through the products shelf-life. Add in advertising, man hours, layout, editing, etc, and your average high quality PDF costs around $300-$2000 to put out, depending on artwork.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 2774794, member: 6390"] Really? That's not what I'm reading. And no, it hasn't been a theme all along. Want to know how a lot of us got into publishing? By another publisher saying: "Wow, this stuff is good, have you ever thought of publishing?" What [b]I believe[/b] jg was saying is: If publishers works are going to be placed up thier free, the majority of publishers will pack it in, or drop out, as they won't be able to recoup costs on a simple PDF, and many print publishers will close up as they will realize that the mechanics of any book they create will hit the Wiki within a week. There won't be any publishers who won't supply totally closed content. Nice turn around. You seem to be of the opinion that if it's from publishers, it's evil, because all publishers are just a good ol' boys club who back each other up and try to keep everyone else from publishing or enjoying stuff. Some people seem to be saying we created our stuff from a free source, so it has no value and we should give it away anyway. A lot of people act like because you use the SRD to create something, you should give everything away, and that it should be free for use by everyone. THAT'S what's upsetting people. Really? You're the one who has misrepresented how easy it is to become a self-publisher, making it sound as if all kinds of barriers have been erected to keep people out, when in fact both distributors and existing publishers bend over backwards to help people. A lot of your threads and other people's seem to center around villanizing publishers who don't want all of thier hard work and effort to be put up for free three days after they put it out. I can understand thier viewpoint, and people constantly painting publishers as ogres sitting on top of treasure saying: "MINE!" while smashing other people with a club unless they can climb onto the stack, is blatantly smearing them with an undue image. I believe that should an OGC Wiki that contains everything connected to the SRD come out, that posts stuff regardless of release date, author's wishes, and other restrictions, will eventually result in many publishers packing it in. Contrary to popular belief, it is EXPENSIVE to put out a good looking PDF. Artists costs usually aren't paid for till about half way through the products shelf-life. Add in advertising, man hours, layout, editing, etc, and your average high quality PDF costs around $300-$2000 to put out, depending on artwork. [/QUOTE]
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