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<blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 2777590" data-attributes="member: 5724"><p>In order for something to happen that would be enjoyed and accepted by the majority of everyone involved, I suspect it would have to something like you suggest above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well if someone wanted to start with products that are already made FREE by the creator and ask the creator for permission to use their name and company name to create a link to where the product from which the FREE OGC material came from could be purchased, that would be a begining. Beyond that, there's so many variables it's hard to conceptualize possiblities.</p><p></p><p>But I think most publishers would be cool with that. Nothing FREE that wasn't made FREE by the creator and a little plug to maybe help with the creation of more OGC in the future, both FREE and for cost. I'd still worry about mindspace, and a few other variables, but there's give and take in all negotiations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think what many of us forget is that the SRD wasn't realy created "for the people." It was created to alow other people to create for sale products that drove the sale of the core books by WotC. It wasn't conceived of as a "shareware-style" community. It was created to create a 2nd tier of for profit companies who'd create smaller, less profitable material, for the core rules.</p><p></p><p>In other words, for WotC to give away core rules is fine, because they're giving them away to publishers with the intent of using the pubishers to create a powerful RPG mindspace for D&D. Like Gareth's quote of RD in the "Is the OGL working" thread, it was far and away <strong>not a nice thing</strong> to do to other publishers (of other existing systems)— even though it created a short gaming reinassance for the fans and may have had the side effect of making the RPG market bigger overall by bringing back lapsed customers who may migrate to other systems. We'll have to see what happens in the future for the larger impact over time, I suppose.</p><p></p><p>So, for a small 3rd party publisher to give away core mechanics for FREE with the intent of distribution to customer's directly instead of to an intermediary 2nd tier, the orginating publisher would then be effectively competing with other publishers <strong>while</strong> being unable to capitilize on the increase sales of a Core product with was the reason for the OGL to begin with. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>It would be better, I think, to keep core rules for sale and put out free product that supports the core, than to release core rules and try to make money off supplements (which historically always do worse than core rules).</p><p></p><p>joe b.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgbrowning, post: 2777590, member: 5724"] In order for something to happen that would be enjoyed and accepted by the majority of everyone involved, I suspect it would have to something like you suggest above. Well if someone wanted to start with products that are already made FREE by the creator and ask the creator for permission to use their name and company name to create a link to where the product from which the FREE OGC material came from could be purchased, that would be a begining. Beyond that, there's so many variables it's hard to conceptualize possiblities. But I think most publishers would be cool with that. Nothing FREE that wasn't made FREE by the creator and a little plug to maybe help with the creation of more OGC in the future, both FREE and for cost. I'd still worry about mindspace, and a few other variables, but there's give and take in all negotiations. I think what many of us forget is that the SRD wasn't realy created "for the people." It was created to alow other people to create for sale products that drove the sale of the core books by WotC. It wasn't conceived of as a "shareware-style" community. It was created to create a 2nd tier of for profit companies who'd create smaller, less profitable material, for the core rules. In other words, for WotC to give away core rules is fine, because they're giving them away to publishers with the intent of using the pubishers to create a powerful RPG mindspace for D&D. Like Gareth's quote of RD in the "Is the OGL working" thread, it was far and away [b]not a nice thing[/b] to do to other publishers (of other existing systems)— even though it created a short gaming reinassance for the fans and may have had the side effect of making the RPG market bigger overall by bringing back lapsed customers who may migrate to other systems. We'll have to see what happens in the future for the larger impact over time, I suppose. So, for a small 3rd party publisher to give away core mechanics for FREE with the intent of distribution to customer's directly instead of to an intermediary 2nd tier, the orginating publisher would then be effectively competing with other publishers [b]while[/b] being unable to capitilize on the increase sales of a Core product with was the reason for the OGL to begin with. :) It would be better, I think, to keep core rules for sale and put out free product that supports the core, than to release core rules and try to make money off supplements (which historically always do worse than core rules). joe b. [/QUOTE]
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