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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8880552" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>And if/when WotC walks back the more egregious parts of this rumored 1.1 and makes something more palatable (while still getting their money)... WotC will be seen as the little guy who stepped up against their corporate Hasbro overlords and put their foot down.</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day... the results are the same. People make D&D content because they know that is the most effective way to get the most eyeballs and wallets onto their products. That's why they don't just make "generic" roleplaying products or products for other RPGs... it's because the <em>affiliation with D&D</em> is what makes their sales as high as they are. They make more money they otherwise wouldn't be if they didn't hitch their wagon to Dungeons & Dragons.</p><p></p><p>And if they try and avoid giving WotC a cut of that money by not releasing it through DMs Guild (which is pretty much already WotC's "GSL" for 5E)... then yeah, it's not surprising that WotC/Hasbro sees this as a hole in their revenue stream that could be patched. And what better way to do so with an eventual acceptance of terms than to go insane with a massive patch to begin with to draw the ire that was going to be coming regardless... <em>and then</em> walking back and making it seem like they're doing everyone favor by being more reasonable?</p><p></p><p>I mean none of you actually think that had WotC started at a more reasonable position of tightening the OGL to begin with that everyone still wouldn't have gone ballistic do you? I mean come on. WotC was going to be seen as greedy and/or incompetent <em>no matter how much or how little</em> they tried to reacquire a piece of the D&D-affiliated pie. So if you're going to freak everyone out anyway... you start as Mr. Hyde and then slowly transform back to Dr. Jackyll later on. Because at least then people will be happy with avoiding what could have been.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8880552, member: 7006"] And if/when WotC walks back the more egregious parts of this rumored 1.1 and makes something more palatable (while still getting their money)... WotC will be seen as the little guy who stepped up against their corporate Hasbro overlords and put their foot down. At the end of the day... the results are the same. People make D&D content because they know that is the most effective way to get the most eyeballs and wallets onto their products. That's why they don't just make "generic" roleplaying products or products for other RPGs... it's because the [I]affiliation with D&D[/I] is what makes their sales as high as they are. They make more money they otherwise wouldn't be if they didn't hitch their wagon to Dungeons & Dragons. And if they try and avoid giving WotC a cut of that money by not releasing it through DMs Guild (which is pretty much already WotC's "GSL" for 5E)... then yeah, it's not surprising that WotC/Hasbro sees this as a hole in their revenue stream that could be patched. And what better way to do so with an eventual acceptance of terms than to go insane with a massive patch to begin with to draw the ire that was going to be coming regardless... [I]and then[/I] walking back and making it seem like they're doing everyone favor by being more reasonable? I mean none of you actually think that had WotC started at a more reasonable position of tightening the OGL to begin with that everyone still wouldn't have gone ballistic do you? I mean come on. WotC was going to be seen as greedy and/or incompetent [I]no matter how much or how little[/I] they tried to reacquire a piece of the D&D-affiliated pie. So if you're going to freak everyone out anyway... you start as Mr. Hyde and then slowly transform back to Dr. Jackyll later on. Because at least then people will be happy with avoiding what could have been. [/QUOTE]
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