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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kanegrundar" data-source="post: 2789386" data-attributes="member: 3913">In the case of SWd20 and M&M, you're likely right.  How about the people that have left D&D for C&C or Blue Rose/True 20?  I'd say it lessens it somewhat unless they are playing those games without outside influence from the D&D product line.  What about new players picking up an OGL game not realizing that they could use D&D material with it?  After all, if they are new to the hobby and are picking up a game that caught their eye, like Game of Thrones, Iron Heroes, or AE there's not the big D&D logo on the books to let them know that they are more or less usable with D&D.  WotC loses out on sales right there since they don't even have to look at D&D products to play.  It's only recently that I've seen the move away from D&D in some groups.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to paint a picture that 4E is going to doom the sales of D&D.  Whatever fracturing occurs will be minor at best, but I can't discount what I see and hear at the FLGS and what I read on the messageboards.  Sure, we're all speaking the language of D20, but that doesn't really mean squat to WotC if we're not buying WotC D20 products.  I think the whole standalone OGL products wasn't entirely what WotC was after.  Sure, those players aren't taking their dollar to play a totally different system, but they aren't taking their dollar right to WotC either.</blockquote>