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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Evilhalfling" data-source="post: 1792552" data-attributes="member: 16991">Okay, some comments on the revised mobs - The bandit mob I worked up, was to represent the old idea of 50 or so bandits witing to ambush large caravans.  This was really hard to play against a party- the irritation of running the fight outwieghed the realism of such and encounter.  Still at a certain level villagers would no longer be a threat.In such numbers the orginal swarms did a highly random amount of damage this seems more fitting for a mob Attack and Damage Some comparison numbers XXXX1XXXX this would be the best avalible pattern acording to rules If the group wanted to make 2 attacks - it could use aid another 3 times eachassuming bandits have attack at +2(1d8) +2, +2(flanking)+6(aid anothers) gets +10 (2d8) If you double up in squares then there is an addtional -4 to hit for squeezingXxXxXxXxPCXxXxXxXx  = 16 per target 3 attackers with 4 using aid another +2 Base, +2 flank, +8 aid another, -4 squeezing = +8 (3d8)but with only 2 of these attacks possible.conclusion - Bandit mob should due virtually no damage (sigh) So add Str bonus back in for a + 9 (2d8+2) attack on anyone engulfed.call this a reasonalble, if generous approximation If the mob had 15 hd (see below) you could double the damage of an individual hit, and give it a medium BAB - +10 (2d8) Hit Dice I think the mobs should have half the listed HD - It would be a better approximation of its willingness to fight.  You could then change eliminating a member to a 1 hd loss - which seems more defensible and logical.Arrow Burst 1. not all bandits will have missle weapons 2. each arrow has only a small chance to hit. 3. If enough arrows fall in a small area - you will get hit. but d6 is to low - with a 5'burst you have 4 squares - assuming 20 of 30 have missle weapons thats 5 shots per square - so how bout 2d6 reflex for half or every target in the area is hit by a +8 attack for 2d6 damageor based on conclusions above +10 (2d6) SO ... Zombies HD 30d12 (195hp) BAB +15 (undead)Attacks +16 (2d6+2) Bandits HD 15d8 (68hp)BAB +15 (warriors) Attacks +16 (2d8+2) BAB was modified to make bandits more dangerous than villagersVillagers HD 15d6 (53hp)BAB: +10  (experts)Attacks +10 (2d6 +1d6 fire)there should be some rule to prevent 1 meele attack from killing huge numbers of peasents - but the only thing I can think of is the mob takes half damage from weapons or single target spells - .. or that the whole thing must be killed by the destroying individuals rule suggested above.</blockquote>

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