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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ralif Redhammer" data-source="post: 2495922" data-attributes="member: 30438">A lot of food for thought there, Rasyr.I'd agree with parts of what you said. I think it has both failed and succeeded. d20 has definitely become a powerhouse in the market. I remember in the 2e days, White Wolf seemed to really be giving TSR a run for their money for the position of king of the hill.At the same time, competing sub-systems have sprouted. I can play Lone Wolf, Conan, Castles & Crusades, Blue Rose, and a host of others without ever having to touch a WotC book. WotC lost me to C&C, and I'm sure I'm not the only one and C&C isn't the only system that's become a competitor within the OGL. By themselves, they're probably not huge slices of the pie, but added together, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a sizeable amount.But after a time of huge glut, I think we're finally seeing the rise of non-d20 systems again. Warhammer 2e, Lejendary Adventures, HARP, etc. I applaud the return of diversity to the market.As for the internet crackdown of the mid-90s, that definitely comes from a misunderstanding of the ways which the internet is changing intellectual property; I would argue that what we are seeing with the record-industry vs. file-sharing is just a continuation of that. As a musician, I'm certainly against en-masse file-sharing, but can see that corporate America is going about things in entirely the wrong way.</blockquote>