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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 2502195" data-attributes="member: 2855">None actually, and nobody has ever claimed there was. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I  just happen to believe that 4e will not be open.I just happen to know of several d20 publishers who believe the same thing.I just happen to know that WotC's current lawyers (from a comment Dancey made elsewhere) don't like the OGL.I just happen to see a number of companies putting out full alternatives to D&D (using the d20 SRD as their basis) in greater and greater numbers (note: these are products that compete directly with the core rulebooks).Note that it is quite possible that they do not release 4e under an open license, yet still go ahead and put it under the d20 STL (which would make sure that any company using the logo is directly supporting WotC rather than letting them become competitors for the same market share). I doubt that this would happen, but it is still a possibility.</blockquote>