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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 2504903" data-attributes="member: 3477">Well, I had the same impression. It's probably the point that everybody likes to see himself as the average customer, representing "the market" in it's entirety. I do not. I think that, in the current situation, "the market" will go wherever WotC will lead them, if they don't make any fundamental error *shrug*.Fitting this discussion, here an excerpt from the Green Ronin seminar on GenCon:Q: We see things splintering away from core rulebook, is that good or bad?A: Chris: From our point of view, things went back for D20 when D&D 3.5 came out, if you were a 3rd party publisher, WOTC kicked you in the nuts (can't sell your backstock). Issue: Are you playing D&D right now, are you going to switch to those rules. Wizards definitely didn't sell as many 3.5 core rulebooks as 3.0, that excitement level can't be kept. It would be fine if they were really going to fix what was needed, instead of endless tweaks and changes (death of a thousand cuts). You can date the decline of the core D20 market from July 2003. We've continued to do core stuff, but when 3.5 came out, our line that was immune was Mutants and Masterminds. Well, D20 core sales going down, M&M continued to sell very strong. That is the economic message that we cannot afford to ignore. Frankly when Blue Rose came out, I wasn't expecting the story to be the rules set. If that works well, between us and other publishers helping us with True 20, we're creating our own network, stand on our own. What is Wizards going to do with 4.0? They could even have it not be open. It would drastically affect a lot of people. It's likely in 2007 or 2008, do 4th edition. Books they're putting out are getting more and more obtuse (oooh - sourcebook about cold places). They're not getting those numbers they got in like Manual of Planes with these specialist books. What happens to us then is an open question. If in the interim we built up our own network, that insulates us. Do we still like D20, sure. Would we like to do more: of course. We'll see.Just for another voice from one of the leading d20 publishers, in addition to Matthew Sprange whom I mentioned above <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</blockquote>

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