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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 3688910" data-attributes="member: 29112">Apart from Fighter, Barbarian and Rogue, perhaps some of these:* <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#barbarianVariantTotemBarbarian" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#barbarianVariantTotemBarbarian</a>* <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#rogueVariantWildernessRogue" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#rogueVariantWildernessRogue</a>* <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#fighterVariantThug" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#fighterVariantThug</a>* The spell-free Ranger variant from Complete Warrior, or any other take on this, that appeals.* I can see a case for certain kinds of casters, depending what writer/subgenre/feel you're mainly drawing from/aiming for, and so on. If they are used, I think they should be significantly lower power than say, the core 3e Sorcerer, and/or have [potential] drawbacks to go with (like <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/campaigns/sanity.htm" target="_blank">Sanity</a>, for example), and possibly be made to multiclass with non-caster classes at least once every two levels.*** With the above kept in mind, classes like the Binder from the Tome of Magic might work, too. Or hey, the other two, even. "Nifft" (on EN World) has done some great work with the Binder and Shadowcaster in the House Rules forum here, btw.* If cut down and kept on a leash, I hear the Bo9S could add something of worth here. Again, Nifft has done something with these classes and others, and I've faith it'd be done well.* The <a href="http://bruiser.pbwiki.com/bruiser" target="_blank">Bruiser</a>, again depending on the style you want, could be cool too.* <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/incantations.htm" target="_blank">Incantations</a> are a good alternative to standard casting, perhaps.That's just sticking to (basically) D&D, and what's coming to mind right now (apart from saying "d00d! Conan OGL rocks!!"), even though I really want to. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />** So that, if for example you are using the Wizard class (maybe with some Sanity rules), they might get Fireball at 10th level, assuming they survive that long. In these kinds of cases, I would also recommend removing spells like Teleport from existence.</blockquote>

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