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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8917700" data-attributes="member: 177">Yeah.&nbsp; I've seen people present that they don't actually care so much about the function of the license any more - if it isn't 1.0a (or 1.0b, clearly irrevocable), they just aren't going to go along.However, I think WotC and D&amp;D have grown to the point where there are some legitimate business concerns that none of us or them could reasonably have been able to predict 20 years ago, and it should be okay to make some changes for that. I think it should be okay for WotC to present us with a license that is functionally the same as v1.0a for 3pp commercial print, pdf (or some version of &quot;static electronic files&quot; to allow, say, searchable online rules compendiums), VTT play and actual play streams, with other uses explicitly carved out of it.&nbsp; WotC should be allowed to explicitly reserve movie, TV, and streaming media rights. They can have traditional videogame rights.&nbsp; Those are all endeavors large enough that we should allow WotC to handle licensing them on a case-by-case basis.&nbsp; I think it would be good for us to let WotC own those things.&nbsp; The 3pp and tabletop community doesn't need those rights in an open license.&nbsp; Any party ambitious enough to want to go into those spaces should have to negotiate for those right separately.Unfortunately, previous versions of the OGL are still ambiguously open on these points - the definition of &quot;use&quot; is too broad - such that closing those licenses is the only way to carve out these spaces for WotC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8917700, member: 177"] Yeah. I've seen people present that they don't actually care so much about the function of the license any more - if it isn't 1.0a (or 1.0b, clearly irrevocable), they just aren't going to go along. However, I think WotC and D&D have grown to the point where there are some legitimate business concerns that none of us or them could reasonably have been able to predict 20 years ago, and it should be okay to make some changes for that. I think it should be okay for WotC to present us with a license that is functionally the same as v1.0a for 3pp commercial print, pdf (or some version of "static electronic files" to allow, say, searchable online rules compendiums), VTT play and actual play streams, with other uses explicitly carved out of it. WotC should be allowed to explicitly reserve movie, TV, and streaming media rights. They can have traditional videogame rights. Those are all endeavors large enough that we should allow WotC to handle licensing them on a case-by-case basis. I think it would be [I]good for us[/I] to let WotC own those things. The 3pp and tabletop community [I]doesn't need[/I] those rights in an open license. Any party ambitious enough to want to go into those spaces should have to negotiate for those right separately. Unfortunately, previous versions of the OGL are still ambiguously open on these points - the definition of "use" is too broad - such that closing those licenses is the only way to carve out these spaces for WotC. [/QUOTE]

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