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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8917704" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>this was my experience in the 90's... New players joined D&D. New players joined our Vampire LARP, or our Mage TT game. There was SOME cross over but in general it was at best 50/50 not 100%. Lots of D&D players didn't want to try any WW games, and a lot of Vamp and Mage players looked down on D&D. Not all, but enough... and even then I saw the "I just don't want to invest time and money in a new system"</p><p></p><p>this however is NOT my experience...</p><p></p><p>There are WAY too many people holding on to previous editions for this to be true... and that's before the entire thing going on right now on Tick Tok where a vocal number of PF2 players (Not all, I have very reasonable friends playing that game) saying "This is why D&D died the day pathfinder was born" and even have people who are mad at Wotc/hasbro DEFENDING wotc/D&D because of the crazy attacks.</p><p>I also am in OSR groups on FB that back in 2017, 2018 where already pushing 'no 3e+ edition is REAL D&D' and those same groups are super up in arms today...</p><p></p><p>I have seen people come in to play pathfinder, or castle and crusaders, or (insert OSR or retroclone here) that refuse to make the jump to D&D for the same reason people refuse to jump FROM D&D... "I don't want to learn a new system"</p><p></p><p>MY own Tic Toks started when a PF2 player asked everyone to explain to him other d20 games... and then later other non d20 TTRPGs. My first posts were saying I currently play 5e, but prefer 4e, but also play V20, M20, Rifts and TORG... and I got hate comments form that guys fans saying that 4e and 5e were 'rip offs' of pathfinder. </p><p></p><p>Oh D&D is the biggest game, but make no mistake, even on here on these very boards you will find people saying no matter what happened they are never going back to D&D but instead playing (insert 3pp D&D)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8917704, member: 67338"] this was my experience in the 90's... New players joined D&D. New players joined our Vampire LARP, or our Mage TT game. There was SOME cross over but in general it was at best 50/50 not 100%. Lots of D&D players didn't want to try any WW games, and a lot of Vamp and Mage players looked down on D&D. Not all, but enough... and even then I saw the "I just don't want to invest time and money in a new system" this however is NOT my experience... There are WAY too many people holding on to previous editions for this to be true... and that's before the entire thing going on right now on Tick Tok where a vocal number of PF2 players (Not all, I have very reasonable friends playing that game) saying "This is why D&D died the day pathfinder was born" and even have people who are mad at Wotc/hasbro DEFENDING wotc/D&D because of the crazy attacks. I also am in OSR groups on FB that back in 2017, 2018 where already pushing 'no 3e+ edition is REAL D&D' and those same groups are super up in arms today... I have seen people come in to play pathfinder, or castle and crusaders, or (insert OSR or retroclone here) that refuse to make the jump to D&D for the same reason people refuse to jump FROM D&D... "I don't want to learn a new system" MY own Tic Toks started when a PF2 player asked everyone to explain to him other d20 games... and then later other non d20 TTRPGs. My first posts were saying I currently play 5e, but prefer 4e, but also play V20, M20, Rifts and TORG... and I got hate comments form that guys fans saying that 4e and 5e were 'rip offs' of pathfinder. Oh D&D is the biggest game, but make no mistake, even on here on these very boards you will find people saying no matter what happened they are never going back to D&D but instead playing (insert 3pp D&D) [/QUOTE]
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