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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8917834" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>there are vocal posters on this board that have for months said they are ONLY playing 3rd party retroclones and or 3rd party changes to 5e. </p><p>There is a thriving community called the OSR that live off the games being 1e retroclones (or BEIM retroclones)</p><p></p><p>WotC didn't loose anything from me. There is not 1 book or product that I didn't buy that I would have if not for the 3pp. </p><p></p><p>My 3pp content I can name off the top of my head are 3 monster books (2 from green ronin) the 5e middle earth books, the new 5e journey system from that for more generic use, and about $100 worth of DMs guild content... (plus the 2 starter sets I just bought to donate). Oh, and Mutants and Masterminds stuff, I do have a bunch of taht. I have 2 retroclones 1 of 2e (that ended up not even fulfilling the kickstarter fully) and 1 of 4e that I paid for an 1 of 4e that is free on these boards... and like 2 or 3 back in 4e days and hundreds of products in 3.5</p><p></p><p>not 1 cent of that money would have gone to anything WotC cause I normally buy the stuff from them first then with left overs going to 3pp</p><p></p><p>BUT I am not the fear WotC has, and by the sounds of it neither are you... my buddy who just came back during covid to 5e left when I started 4e to go to pathfinder... he still buys PF books all the time, and owns 1 wotc product since the book of 9 swords came out (last wotc thing he bought before the 5e phb) he has 0 plans to ever buy any more wotc products... but he sure is fine buying path finder stuff... so WotC is looking at him as lost sales.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8917834, member: 67338"] there are vocal posters on this board that have for months said they are ONLY playing 3rd party retroclones and or 3rd party changes to 5e. There is a thriving community called the OSR that live off the games being 1e retroclones (or BEIM retroclones) WotC didn't loose anything from me. There is not 1 book or product that I didn't buy that I would have if not for the 3pp. My 3pp content I can name off the top of my head are 3 monster books (2 from green ronin) the 5e middle earth books, the new 5e journey system from that for more generic use, and about $100 worth of DMs guild content... (plus the 2 starter sets I just bought to donate). Oh, and Mutants and Masterminds stuff, I do have a bunch of taht. I have 2 retroclones 1 of 2e (that ended up not even fulfilling the kickstarter fully) and 1 of 4e that I paid for an 1 of 4e that is free on these boards... and like 2 or 3 back in 4e days and hundreds of products in 3.5 not 1 cent of that money would have gone to anything WotC cause I normally buy the stuff from them first then with left overs going to 3pp BUT I am not the fear WotC has, and by the sounds of it neither are you... my buddy who just came back during covid to 5e left when I started 4e to go to pathfinder... he still buys PF books all the time, and owns 1 wotc product since the book of 9 swords came out (last wotc thing he bought before the 5e phb) he has 0 plans to ever buy any more wotc products... but he sure is fine buying path finder stuff... so WotC is looking at him as lost sales. [/QUOTE]
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