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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DM_Matt" data-source="post: 1318445" data-attributes="member: 1213">Remember that he is not going to bemaking this HOgre a powerful and efficient combat machine.   I believe that a DD build will in the long run be significantly weaker than a fighterHis BAB will suck...DD grants cleric BaB AND he loses a level AND he is getting no bab for his sorc elvelHis sorc level and the bonus spells will be useless.  He gets some L1 spells IF he buys a 13 in Cha (remmber, those could go to make a bad dex good instead).  what L1 spells will even be useful in th elong run?  The only good buff is enlarge, which doesnt work.  Charm person wont work when his DC's are so low.  Magic Missile for 1d4+1?  He's better off carrying a mighty bow or even a bag of rocks.  Might not always hit, but he gets iterative attacks and might acutally drop a kobold oce in a while.DDs also get claw and bite.  Those go to waste or else deprive him of the big advantage of power attacking with a two-handed weapon for 2-1 beucase his str bonus is so high that he cna afford to.  That and they have crit 20/x2, and cirts are a lot more powerful when you do a lot of damage as it is.He also needs to spend 8 of his precious skill points in knowledge(Arcana).Thus, while I am of the opinion that a Hogre is a somewhat powerful +1 but a terrible +2, I must point out taht if hes going DD, he needs other powerful things just to compete as a melee guy.</blockquote>