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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1321072" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>As you neither allow pm's nor emails dcollins I am forced to put this on here.</p><p></p><p>I would appreciate if you would amend your post. Saying that a world average is high does not mean that everyone is high. There are other races in the world than humans, some of which have 20+ CR to begin with. Takeing all of these factors into account for a world that is designed to go from fairly low level up through epic makes the world average much higher than the 1.2 or so that your world is. Or perhaps you are assuming that anything non-human does not count, I dont know.</p><p></p><p>Along with the part about my finding nearly ever race and class underpowered. I have been very outspoken on halforcs and fighters, that is hardly a good representation of even a majority. I definately feel that it is necisarry to be outspoken to some degree to make people aware that there may be a problem, plus I like to get to the point quickly most of the time. This leads people to believe that I am being abrassive, an unfortunate side effect.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I would just appreciate if you changed the part that was untrue.</p><p></p><p>Moving on, </p><p></p><p>Numion, saying that something is a blatant attack is not an indication of thick or thin skin. Merely stating it as I saw it, are you denying that is what it was?</p><p></p><p>Twisting the information? So then, you must also be twisting the information to come up with the point of view that I am. All well and good. Now, would you care to show where the information is misrepresented? Stating that it is wrong is your opinion, and in my opinion you are blatantly wrong. Good now, we have the basis down.</p><p></p><p>I would break down the other arguements and show where I feel they are wrong but it hardly matters. Reach is impressive early on, later on it does very little and can be avoided with a vast number of tactics. As for everything else the guy has balances out nicely as a +1 as I have shown. At +2 he is just weak, as has also been shown. For each game some race/class combos will be too powerful so let the people make their own determination based on the numbers and their own experience. However, stating over and over again that it is 'obviously' overpowered just doesnt hold up. Strong +1 but very limited in scope, or very weak +2 even more limited in scope, your choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1321072, member: 5777"] As you neither allow pm's nor emails dcollins I am forced to put this on here. I would appreciate if you would amend your post. Saying that a world average is high does not mean that everyone is high. There are other races in the world than humans, some of which have 20+ CR to begin with. Takeing all of these factors into account for a world that is designed to go from fairly low level up through epic makes the world average much higher than the 1.2 or so that your world is. Or perhaps you are assuming that anything non-human does not count, I dont know. Along with the part about my finding nearly ever race and class underpowered. I have been very outspoken on halforcs and fighters, that is hardly a good representation of even a majority. I definately feel that it is necisarry to be outspoken to some degree to make people aware that there may be a problem, plus I like to get to the point quickly most of the time. This leads people to believe that I am being abrassive, an unfortunate side effect. Like I said, I would just appreciate if you changed the part that was untrue. Moving on, Numion, saying that something is a blatant attack is not an indication of thick or thin skin. Merely stating it as I saw it, are you denying that is what it was? Twisting the information? So then, you must also be twisting the information to come up with the point of view that I am. All well and good. Now, would you care to show where the information is misrepresented? Stating that it is wrong is your opinion, and in my opinion you are blatantly wrong. Good now, we have the basis down. I would break down the other arguements and show where I feel they are wrong but it hardly matters. Reach is impressive early on, later on it does very little and can be avoided with a vast number of tactics. As for everything else the guy has balances out nicely as a +1 as I have shown. At +2 he is just weak, as has also been shown. For each game some race/class combos will be too powerful so let the people make their own determination based on the numbers and their own experience. However, stating over and over again that it is 'obviously' overpowered just doesnt hold up. Strong +1 but very limited in scope, or very weak +2 even more limited in scope, your choice. [/QUOTE]
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