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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aaron" data-source="post: 6937277" data-attributes="member: 52548">Ok, but...how?I checked the math, and I was mistaken, the epic spell grants an armor bonus of +37.The math is:Epic Seed: Armor: DC 14 (+4 bonus to AC)Change from touch or ranged touch attack to target: +4Change from target to area (pick area option below): +10Change area to 20-ft. radius: +2We have a DC of 30 so far.Now, to obtain more AC, the Armor Seed states that "For each additional  point of Armor Class bonus, increase the Spellcraft DC by +2."So, to get 33 more points, the DC increases  by 66, and we obtain a DC of 96.Now, the mitigating factors:Increase casting time to 10 minutes: -20Burn 2000 XP during casting: -20Total DC: 56.The 24 lv wizard has a Spellcraft modifier of +47 (27 ranks, Int 30, +10 Spellcraft item).As you can see, he can take 10 on his Spellcraft check and cast the 37 AC granting Epic spell.So, the answer is ... I'm screwed?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>