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<blockquote data-quote="Foundry of Decay" data-source="post: 4277585" data-attributes="member: 846"><p>As admittedly tired as I'm getting at the veritable complaint-fest (I had another name for it, but I try to be civil when possible) that seems to be creeping up not by players on the boards, but by people who have done little more than skim a book, I have to interject here that art is subject to tastes of the individuals viewing it.</p><p></p><p>As unpopular as this might be to say, I honestly find Erol Otus's art juvenile. It lacks depth, dynamic and proportions. Part of this of course is due to the old mediums not allowing for tight in-depth colours that today's digital art does. And part of it is that styles change over the course of time. In the old days of D&D (I'm a grognard, believe me) simplistic artwork of a fantasy nature was the norm. Boris Vallejo for instance was regarded as one of the kings of fantasy art back then. And I enjoyed all of the old masters..</p><p></p><p>However, just like old TV shows that I used to adore as a child/teenager, my tastes have changed quite a bit over the years. I couldn't watch those horrible old cartoons these days, and I certainly get more inspiration from the lush art in the new manual as well.</p><p></p><p>As to flavour text in the MM, this is subjective as well. If you have little problem adapting on the fly, the lack of detailed chatter on monsters and where they live is of little consequence. If you would prefer to just go by whatever the book says and not add your own spin to things, then yes, you will be disappointed to a varying degree.</p><p></p><p>For the record I've never used the 'descriptive text' or 'social text' of a monster in my 21 years of playing. This doesn't mean I'm 'right' in this instance, just that I'm utterly ambivalent to the lack of descriptive and social text.</p><p></p><p>Its times like these that I'm happy to be blessed with very adaptive players. They're just happy to play and adapt as they go, so 4e is one hell of a ramp up for us. I wish those who've dropped the game the best in whatever they do end up playing though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Foundry of Decay, post: 4277585, member: 846"] As admittedly tired as I'm getting at the veritable complaint-fest (I had another name for it, but I try to be civil when possible) that seems to be creeping up not by players on the boards, but by people who have done little more than skim a book, I have to interject here that art is subject to tastes of the individuals viewing it. As unpopular as this might be to say, I honestly find Erol Otus's art juvenile. It lacks depth, dynamic and proportions. Part of this of course is due to the old mediums not allowing for tight in-depth colours that today's digital art does. And part of it is that styles change over the course of time. In the old days of D&D (I'm a grognard, believe me) simplistic artwork of a fantasy nature was the norm. Boris Vallejo for instance was regarded as one of the kings of fantasy art back then. And I enjoyed all of the old masters.. However, just like old TV shows that I used to adore as a child/teenager, my tastes have changed quite a bit over the years. I couldn't watch those horrible old cartoons these days, and I certainly get more inspiration from the lush art in the new manual as well. As to flavour text in the MM, this is subjective as well. If you have little problem adapting on the fly, the lack of detailed chatter on monsters and where they live is of little consequence. If you would prefer to just go by whatever the book says and not add your own spin to things, then yes, you will be disappointed to a varying degree. For the record I've never used the 'descriptive text' or 'social text' of a monster in my 21 years of playing. This doesn't mean I'm 'right' in this instance, just that I'm utterly ambivalent to the lack of descriptive and social text. Its times like these that I'm happy to be blessed with very adaptive players. They're just happy to play and adapt as they go, so 4e is one hell of a ramp up for us. I wish those who've dropped the game the best in whatever they do end up playing though. [/QUOTE]
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