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Ok, now i'm REALLY CONFUSED. AKA, do any of you think you know what WotC is doing?
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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 5428813" data-attributes="member: 9225"><p>If we're in the realm of absurd specificity, the answer is indeed, "yes."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not required to restate examples over and over again. Once should be sufficient.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you do *not* know this. You *think* you know this because it was told to you over and over again as part of a conversation marketing campaign designed to win over reluctant adopters of 3e. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The idea that the game undersold compared to one of the most popular iterations of the Star Wars property ever is . . . to be expected. And still successful. I think you are mistaking not fancying the game for something that matters to this conversation.</p><p></p><p>Also, see the rest of the last decade.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The only strong factual statement from WotC was that TSR's had a poor stock management system that overvalued inventory. This can cause serious problems on its own.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This supposes a simple relationship between game settings and game play. See, the Frustrated Novelists WotC kicked out of the building so you could go back to the dungeon probably understood that it's not as simple as accepting or rejecting a setting, but the designers of market research surveys? Not so much. Then again, market research surveys and their conclusions are usually cart-horse constructions in any privately held firm anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are under the mistaken impression that anybody cares about Japanese tabletop RPGs. Few Japanese people care about Japanese tabletop RPGs. I'm talking about the result you will get when you Google JRPG, not a sub-sub-hobby. I mean, I think there are cool ideas and all in them, but they don't matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see loads of ways to make 4e something other than a competitor in a race with Pathfinder and the OSR to see who can alienate anybody born after 1980 the fastest, so in that sense I don't think it's doomed at all. Otherwise, it can linger on in one form or another for ages without having to appeal to people who don't care about "gamism," the red box, or the Efreeti on the DMG1e. I love all those things, sure, but there seems to be a failure to communicate this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 5428813, member: 9225"] If we're in the realm of absurd specificity, the answer is indeed, "yes." I am not required to restate examples over and over again. Once should be sufficient. Okay. No, you do *not* know this. You *think* you know this because it was told to you over and over again as part of a conversation marketing campaign designed to win over reluctant adopters of 3e. The idea that the game undersold compared to one of the most popular iterations of the Star Wars property ever is . . . to be expected. And still successful. I think you are mistaking not fancying the game for something that matters to this conversation. Also, see the rest of the last decade. The only strong factual statement from WotC was that TSR's had a poor stock management system that overvalued inventory. This can cause serious problems on its own. This supposes a simple relationship between game settings and game play. See, the Frustrated Novelists WotC kicked out of the building so you could go back to the dungeon probably understood that it's not as simple as accepting or rejecting a setting, but the designers of market research surveys? Not so much. Then again, market research surveys and their conclusions are usually cart-horse constructions in any privately held firm anyway. You are under the mistaken impression that anybody cares about Japanese tabletop RPGs. Few Japanese people care about Japanese tabletop RPGs. I'm talking about the result you will get when you Google JRPG, not a sub-sub-hobby. I mean, I think there are cool ideas and all in them, but they don't matter. I can see loads of ways to make 4e something other than a competitor in a race with Pathfinder and the OSR to see who can alienate anybody born after 1980 the fastest, so in that sense I don't think it's doomed at all. Otherwise, it can linger on in one form or another for ages without having to appeal to people who don't care about "gamism," the red box, or the Efreeti on the DMG1e. I love all those things, sure, but there seems to be a failure to communicate this. [/QUOTE]
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