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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4261028" data-attributes="member: 5038">No we all won't.  Despite agreeing with many of the stated goals and admitting 3e has some problems, I am pretty much disapponted with 4e. Barring one or two things I might be forgetting, the only changes that I consider that the designers of 4e to have gotten right are:- increasing starting hp (no more wizards dying by housecat)- making many of the racial abilities into feats- skill challenges (granted, I have Unearthed Arcana and complex skill checks, but nice to see it)- passive perception- toning down spellcasters (but per encounter/daily still suck  and the  Elements of Magic books for 3e do the same thing while being much better magic systems. My opnion of course)- possibly the multiclassing rules- providing a couple of build examples for each class- the idea of rituals (but I have this in UA with incantations)- the changes to the planes (removing the Great Wheel, introducing the Feywild)- removing certain spells (e.g., rope trick)On the other hand, I dislike - per encounter/daily powers,- paragon paths and epic destinies (at least prestige classes in 3e are optional)- the changes to skills and removal of skill ranks- the paladin's divine challenge and marking- a whole bunch of other stuff including many of the powers for various classes. I ifnd the above things  not fun,  many are just cheesey, and negate any benefit from the things I do like.  I would much rather stick with the core 3e, Unearthed Arcana,  a few other select WOTC books ( primarily MM2, Fiend Folio, Heroes of Horror, and the dedicated monster books (excluding Libris Mortis)), existing third party support, and a couple of house rules rather than trying to rewrite 4e into something I will enjoy.</blockquote>

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