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Message: <blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 2116543" data-attributes="member: 24969"><p>I was turned off of DL so early on I don't have a clue as to what half of you are talking about. I'm not even sure if there were novels before I cursed the name of DL. The work seemed really good and the modules top notch. I'd buy them and reuse them for something else with no problem. What turned me off on DL were Kender and the other wacky races as well as the early railroading of the modules that had use trying to kill the main heroes as they showed up to save the day. As others have pointed out, a setting is what you make of it, however, If you don't use the wacky races and various NPCs that make up a great deal of what DL is about, what point is there of using that setting over another? I bought the 1E hardcover book and read it. It was pretty good and had lots of neat ideas, however, everybody that actually wanted to play a DL game, did so so they could play up the elements I hated the most. If you ever made an "Ultimate DL" version, you'd just end up with another generic setting that lost the old fans and would be rejected by the new. So ya, DL is beyond hope as far as a quick fix goes.</p></blockquote><p></p>