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<blockquote data-quote="Shallown" data-source="post: 944429" data-attributes="member: 1368"><p>I played in a game once were the set up was pretty cool. We worked for the government as explorer's. Basically the island on the coast had been domesticated and two forward bases/wood forts had been created on the main land. We had a map of the coast and a little bit up the two rivers and that was it. Our group was suppose to explore inwards. Fine sounds like fun... was until we found out we didn't work directly for the government but was free lancing. And we didn't get paid... and we had to pay for training and all our own supplies out of the measliy money /stuff we found. I think the not getting paid part po'ed me the most. After a while I started refusing to give over map and my journals to them unless they gave me something in return. The GM said "well that's why your here" And I said "But we don't get anything for risking our lives not even reduced pricing we get everything at frontier inflated cost" Hell I stood a better chance surviving out in the woods than with these theiving SOB's but of course I would never level without training. </p><p></p><p>Realize I would have been willing to hand over all treasure and request supplies and training. But having to pay for them and turn over my hard work that I risked my life for NO I finally just refused and they started paying me. I could just have easily stayed in the fort safe and made boats (My Proficiencies in 2ed). They needed those as well. </p><p></p><p>And on a final note the reason I left this group. I spent a year of weeklygaming as a mgae to go from 1st to second level to lose a level on the first encounter after making second never getting to cast a spell. I must have spent most the campaign unconscious from going into negative hit points and the conscious half with the paladin trying to make me go fighter since I would fire off my one daily spell then enter combat with him using a dagger. And this GM was ahead of his time becuase you got no bonuses for being at the creatures back like 2ed (Since the creature was wheeling around like 3rd ed) but was behind the times becuase you didn't get flanking bonuses. I basically would attract the creatures attention and get nocked out to have the paladin hopefully clean up. And At times the Paladin and Ranger were down and I was left to kill the bad guy. Yea once this was an Owlbear. But that is a whole another rant. sorry for getting off track.</p><p></p><p>Sad thing was I liked the group and the GM just nothis style.</p><p></p><p>later</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shallown, post: 944429, member: 1368"] I played in a game once were the set up was pretty cool. We worked for the government as explorer's. Basically the island on the coast had been domesticated and two forward bases/wood forts had been created on the main land. We had a map of the coast and a little bit up the two rivers and that was it. Our group was suppose to explore inwards. Fine sounds like fun... was until we found out we didn't work directly for the government but was free lancing. And we didn't get paid... and we had to pay for training and all our own supplies out of the measliy money /stuff we found. I think the not getting paid part po'ed me the most. After a while I started refusing to give over map and my journals to them unless they gave me something in return. The GM said "well that's why your here" And I said "But we don't get anything for risking our lives not even reduced pricing we get everything at frontier inflated cost" Hell I stood a better chance surviving out in the woods than with these theiving SOB's but of course I would never level without training. Realize I would have been willing to hand over all treasure and request supplies and training. But having to pay for them and turn over my hard work that I risked my life for NO I finally just refused and they started paying me. I could just have easily stayed in the fort safe and made boats (My Proficiencies in 2ed). They needed those as well. And on a final note the reason I left this group. I spent a year of weeklygaming as a mgae to go from 1st to second level to lose a level on the first encounter after making second never getting to cast a spell. I must have spent most the campaign unconscious from going into negative hit points and the conscious half with the paladin trying to make me go fighter since I would fire off my one daily spell then enter combat with him using a dagger. And this GM was ahead of his time becuase you got no bonuses for being at the creatures back like 2ed (Since the creature was wheeling around like 3rd ed) but was behind the times becuase you didn't get flanking bonuses. I basically would attract the creatures attention and get nocked out to have the paladin hopefully clean up. And At times the Paladin and Ranger were down and I was left to kill the bad guy. Yea once this was an Owlbear. But that is a whole another rant. sorry for getting off track. Sad thing was I liked the group and the GM just nothis style. later [/QUOTE]
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