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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 944947" data-attributes="member: 99">I've seen both sides of this sort of thing.A few campaigns ago, our party were all "circus performers" (a trick rider/swordsman, acrobat and trick shot bowman respectively) who were asked to come to the "circus olympics" by our patron.  When we got there, we were "allowed" to stay in his manor house in the city for a cut rate.  He proceeded to have us perform various non-circus-related duties for him that were increasingly putting us at cross-purposes with a cult of demon summoners.  At no point were we paid anything.  About half way through the campaign, he asked us to do yet another incredibly dangerous job and I inquired about some compensation.  He balked on the basis that he was our "patron" and should be able to ask such things from us.I proceeded to (in character) give him the tongue lashing of a lifetime and told him that if his idea of patronage was that we come to a far away city at his behest whereupon he charges us rent to stay at his house while we risk our lives and immortal souls by battling a cult of demon summoners free of charge, that I'd like to consider another line of less dangerous work for better pay.  Say being a busboy or somesuch.He parted with some coin soon thereafter.On the other hand, in the last campaign I ran, the party helped to liberate a nearby town from the hands of some Gnolls and in the process recovered some lost treasure that had been stowed away when the town was sacked by barbarians some 20 years earlier.  When some of the townsfolk who had survived that raid wanted a portion of the treasure back, some members of the party got a bit touchy about it.It was true that the party was generally regarded as heroes and people respected their deeds.  But at the same time, not one character in the group had a non-negative charisma modifier (note:  these weren't munchkin power gamers who all used Cha as a dump stat.  It was valid with all the character concepts.  They just hadn't noticed that they lacked a "front man".).  When I pointed this out, they conceeded that there might be a reason that they were less well liked than they might otherwise be considered.  They donated a portion of the treasure to the town but still got to keep a decent share.</blockquote>

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