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Message: <blockquote data-quote="broghammerj" data-source="post: 3793396" data-attributes="member: 1869">All of this POL talk makes me chuckle a bit.  Most of the current popular campaigns deviate from the POL model with FR being the most opposite followed by Eberron.  I will give Irda Ranger a nod for characterizing Dragonlance as an intermediate.  Had Greyhawk not been so poorly abandoned over the years it would have likely had more RPG support and an extensive novel line which would have taken it from a semi POL world to something like FR.  I realize this is a bit of revisionist history, but I think it's a side effect of a novel line which Greyhawk doesn't currently have.  I think GH support is part nostalgia and part unknown world available for DM development.The FR hate always amazes me and seems a bit unfounded.  I have played extensively in the FR and don't ever seemed to be impacted by Elminster, Drizzt, the Harpers, etc.  All campaigns have required us to battle goblins in the wilderness, the Zhentirem in their occupied territory, or evil Giants in the North, etc.  Somehow we still ended up being good against the forces of evil in this highly developed and civilized world.Ah but I digress.  I don't see people clamoring for this campaign model.  So far no marketed campaign model has succeeded with the POL format.  Those previously mentioned like Dark Sun and Ravenloft (I enjoyed them both) would still be in production if they were truly successful.Once again the flavor changes of 4E seems to be the designers bringing their homebrew to my table rather than rewriting a core mechanics for me to design my own game.</blockquote>

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