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<blockquote data-quote="der_kluge" data-source="post: 2052155" data-attributes="member: 945"><p>I don't like it, but only in the sense that it doesn't really make sense to me. A spell point, or mana system makes so much more sense to me. What is it about a fireball spell that a 5th level caster can only cast one time per day, but the same guy can cast 3 magic missiles in that same day? Why can't I trade the 3 magic missiles for an extra fireball? That makes sense to me. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, in D&D, there is a chart. And this chart has an X coordindate of "level", and the "Y" coordinate is "power". As a fighter increases in level, his power increases proportionately, so that for the fighter, the line stays flat. That is, his power is equal to his level.</p><p></p><p>The wizard and sorcerer, however, are more of a diagonal line. Most here would agree that a wizard or sorcerer (hereby refered to as a wizorcerer) starts out very, very weak. A 1st level fighter and 1st level wizorcerer? My money is on the fighter every time. But as the levels increase, the wizorcerer becomes more and more powerful exponentially. So at 20th level, you'll find no one taking bets on the fighter anymore.</p><p></p><p>Why is that? Is it a sacred cow? I think so. </p><p></p><p>Why does it have to be that way? I'd like to see a 1st level variant wizorcerer go toe to toe with a 1st level fighter. Why can't they design a wizorcerer with a flat power bar like the fighter? Is having one magic missile at first level really all that powerful? Why can't the mechanic for magic work more like combat? Why can't the wizorcerer have an unlimited amount of "magic rays" that he can use to attack people. Is giving a 1st level wizorcerer an unlimited number of 1d4 dmg rays (ranged touch attack) unbalancing? </p><p></p><p>Apparently someone thinks so, but I disagree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="der_kluge, post: 2052155, member: 945"] I don't like it, but only in the sense that it doesn't really make sense to me. A spell point, or mana system makes so much more sense to me. What is it about a fireball spell that a 5th level caster can only cast one time per day, but the same guy can cast 3 magic missiles in that same day? Why can't I trade the 3 magic missiles for an extra fireball? That makes sense to me. The thing is, in D&D, there is a chart. And this chart has an X coordindate of "level", and the "Y" coordinate is "power". As a fighter increases in level, his power increases proportionately, so that for the fighter, the line stays flat. That is, his power is equal to his level. The wizard and sorcerer, however, are more of a diagonal line. Most here would agree that a wizard or sorcerer (hereby refered to as a wizorcerer) starts out very, very weak. A 1st level fighter and 1st level wizorcerer? My money is on the fighter every time. But as the levels increase, the wizorcerer becomes more and more powerful exponentially. So at 20th level, you'll find no one taking bets on the fighter anymore. Why is that? Is it a sacred cow? I think so. Why does it have to be that way? I'd like to see a 1st level variant wizorcerer go toe to toe with a 1st level fighter. Why can't they design a wizorcerer with a flat power bar like the fighter? Is having one magic missile at first level really all that powerful? Why can't the mechanic for magic work more like combat? Why can't the wizorcerer have an unlimited amount of "magic rays" that he can use to attack people. Is giving a 1st level wizorcerer an unlimited number of 1d4 dmg rays (ranged touch attack) unbalancing? Apparently someone thinks so, but I disagree. [/QUOTE]
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