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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 1760390" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>Official, schmofficial. Dackad/Pants' version of the Yugoloth and the Gehreleth is much better than the official versions. (For one, they're consistant with the established cannon that ultroloth are the smartest of the top fiends, and that shator are the physically strongest.) The official versions of monsters like the Dragonnel are new monsters, not conversions or updates. If you want a creature from 1e or 2e, the Tome of Horrors is for you. If you want official WotC stuff, then don't look back at the old TSR stuff, and just pretend that all these monsters never existed. Instead, you got the Ethergaunts and the Nerra.</p><p></p><p>As for the Leprechaun... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The Leprechaun <u><em><strong>is</strong></em></u> in, guess what, the Ubiquitous Fantabulous Mandatory Tome of Horrors. Buy it!</p><p></p><p>Seriously, if I had to recommend only <em>one</em> third-party d20 book, it would be the ToH. You won't find any better opportunity, the ToH was underpriced and will not be reprinted with such a generous price. Hurry!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's the psionic half-giant in the EPH, as well as a Sun Giant and a Sand Giant in the MM2 & 3. (Also a Sand Giant in ToH.) Could one of them qualify?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Monster Manual 2</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about the Assassin Vine?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Forest Sloth in the MM2 is very close, from what I've heard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wouldn't the Corpse Creature template from Vile Darkness replace it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 1760390, member: 1328"] Official, schmofficial. Dackad/Pants' version of the Yugoloth and the Gehreleth is much better than the official versions. (For one, they're consistant with the established cannon that ultroloth are the smartest of the top fiends, and that shator are the physically strongest.) The official versions of monsters like the Dragonnel are new monsters, not conversions or updates. If you want a creature from 1e or 2e, the Tome of Horrors is for you. If you want official WotC stuff, then don't look back at the old TSR stuff, and just pretend that all these monsters never existed. Instead, you got the Ethergaunts and the Nerra. As for the Leprechaun... :) The Leprechaun [u][i][b]is[/b][/i][/u] in, guess what, the Ubiquitous Fantabulous Mandatory Tome of Horrors. Buy it! Seriously, if I had to recommend only [i]one[/i] third-party d20 book, it would be the ToH. You won't find any better opportunity, the ToH was underpriced and will not be reprinted with such a generous price. Hurry! There's the psionic half-giant in the EPH, as well as a Sun Giant and a Sand Giant in the MM2 & 3. (Also a Sand Giant in ToH.) Could one of them qualify? Monster Manual 2 What about the Assassin Vine? The Forest Sloth in the MM2 is very close, from what I've heard. Wouldn't the Corpse Creature template from Vile Darkness replace it? [/QUOTE]
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