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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark Chance" data-source="post: 3731862" data-attributes="member: 2795">Various Plant MonstersContinuing with the plant monsters....[sblock=Shambling mound barbarian 4; CR 10]CN Large plantInit -1; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, Listen +10, Spot +1Language Sylvan-----AC 21 (–1 size, -1 Dex, +2 armor, +11 natural), touch 8, flat-footed 21; trap sense +1, uncanny dodgeAC (when raging) 19 (–1 size, -1 Dex, +2 armor, +11 natural, -2 rage), touch 6, flat-footed 19; trap sense +1, uncanny dodgehp 122 (12 HD)hp (when raging) 146Immune critical hits, electricity, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, stunningResist fire 10Fort +15, Ref +2, Will +6; trap sense +1Fort (when raging) +17, Will (when raging) +8-----Spd 30 ft. (6 squares), swim 20 ft.Melee 2 slams +17 (2d6+7)Melee (when raging) 2 slams +19 (2d6+9)Space 10 ft.; Reach 10 ft.Base Atk +10; Grp +21Atk Options constrict 2d6+10 (or 2d6+13 when raging), Improved Bullrush, improved grab, Power Attack, rage 2/day (10 rounds)Combat Gear potion of magic fang +3-----Abilities Str 25, Dex 9, Con 20, Int 8, Wis 13, Cha 8Abilities (when raging) Str 29, Con 24Skills Hide +6*, Jump +13, Listen +10, Move Silently +6, Survival +7 (*Add +8 racial bonus on Hide checks when in a swampy or forested area.)Skills (when raging) Jump +15Feats Improved Bullrush, Iron Will, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (slam), TrackPossessions bracers of armor +2-----Constrict (Ex): A shambler deals constriction damage with a successful grapple check.Immunity to Electricity (Ex): Shamblers take no damage from electricity. Instead, any electricity attack used against a shambler temporarily grants it 1d4 points of Constitution. The shambler loses these points at the rate of 1 per hour.Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, a shambler must hit with both slam attacks. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold and can constrict.[/sblock]The ELH paragon template is just so over-the-top that it can no longer be ignored in this thread.[sblock=Advanced paragon assassin vine; CR 26]N Colossal plantInit +7; Senses blindsight 30 ft., low-light vision, Listen +10, Spot +1-----AC 51 (-8 size, +7 Dex, +12 insight, +12 luck, +18 natural), touch 33, flat-footed 44hp 1,404 (36 HD); DR 10/epic; fast healing 20Immune critical hits, electricity, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, stunningResist cold 10, fire 10SR 51Fort +49, Ref +31, Will +33-----Spd 15 ft. (3 squares)Melee slam +52 melee (3d6+57)Space 30 ft.; Reach 30 ft. (60 ft. with vine)Base Atk +27; Grp +68Atk Options constrict 3d6+57, entangle, improved grabSpell-Like Abilities (CL 15th):3/day - greater dispel magic, haste, see invisibility-----Abilities Str 61, Dex 25, Con 48, Int --, Wis 29, Cha 25SQ camouflage-----Camouflage (Ex): Since an assassin vine looks like a normal plant when at rest, it takes a DC 20 Spot check to notice it before it attacks. Anyone with ranks in Survival or Knowledge (nature) can use one of those skills instead of Spot to notice the plant. Dwarves can use stonecunning to notice the subterranean version.Constrict (Ex): An assassin vine deals 3d6+57 points of damage with a successful grapple check.Damage Reduction: A paragon creature’s natural weapons are treated as epic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.Entangle (Su): An assassin vine can animate plants within 30 ft. of itself as a free action (Ref DC 41 partial). The effect lasts until the vine dies or decides to end it (also a free action). The save DC is Wisdom-based. The ability is otherwise similar to an entangle spell (caster level 4th).Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, an assassin vine must hit with its slam attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold and can constrict.[/sblock]Here's what happens when you stick the pseudonatural template on a low CR monster. There's no way this beastie is actually CR 19. I'd put its real CR at no higher than half that amount.[sblock=Pseudonatural violet fungus; CR 19 (not really)]N Medium outsider (extraplanar)Init +4; Senses low-light vision, Listen +9, Spot +9-----AC 49 (+4 Dex, +35 natural), touch 14, flat-footed 45hp 32 (2 HD); DR 5/epicImmune critical hits, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, stunningResist acid 15, electricity 15SR 10Fort +11, Ref +4, Will +5-----Spd 20 ft. (4 squares)Melee 4 tentacles +29 melee (1d6+13 plus poison)Melee (in pseudonatural form) 5 tentacle rakes +29 melee (2d8+13 plus poison)Space 5 ft.; Reach 10 ft.Base Atk +1; Grp +29Atk Options constant insight, improved grab, poison (Fort 19), rotting constrictionSpecial Actions alternate formSpell-Like Abilities (CL 20th):At will - blur, dimension door, shield, unhallow-----Abilities Str 36, Dex 18, Con 26, Int 3, Wis 21, Cha 9Skills Hide +5, Listen +9, Spot +9Feats Alertness-----Alternate Form (Su): At will, a pseudonatural creature can take the form of a grotesque, tentacled mass (or another appropriately gruesome form), but all its abilities remain unchanged despite the alien appearance. Changing shape is a standard action. Other creatures receive a -1 morale penalty on their attack rolls against pseudonatural creatures in this alternate form.Constant Insight (Su): The creature makes all its attacks with a +15 insight bonus. The creature is not affected by the miss chance that applies to attacks against a concealed target.Damage Reduction: A pseudonatural creature’s natural weapons are treated as epic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.Improved Grab (Ex): If the creature hits an opponent smaller than it with a tentacle, it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity.Poison (Ex): Injury, Fortitude DC 19, initial and secondary damage 1d4 Strength and 1d4 Constitution. The save DC is Constitution-based.Rotting Constriction (Ex): Once the creature has hold of an opponent, each successful grapple check it makes during subsequent rounds permanently drains 2d4 points of Constitution. At the same time, the creature regains 10 lost hit points.[/sblock]What if shriekers were intelligent?[sblock=Shrieker nomad 5; CR 3]N Medium plantInit -5; Senses low-light vision, Listen +6, Spot +5Language Undercommon-----AC 8 (-5 Dex, +3 natural), touch 5, flat-footed 8hp 41 (7 HD)Immune critical hits, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, stunningFort +6, Ref --, Will +6-----Spd 0 ft.Ranged Touch crystal shard +3 (1d6, plus 1d6 per pp expended, up to +5d6)Space 5 ft.; Reach 0 ft.Base Atk +3; Grp -2Special Actions shriekCombat Gear three psionic tattoos (telekinetic thrust, ML 5th)Psionic Powers Known (32 pp/day, ML 5th):3rd - telekinetic thrust (Will 16)2nd - dimension swap, energy push (Fort or Ref half 15), psionic levitate1st - crystal shard, missiveDiscipline psychoportation-----Abilities Str --, Dex --, Con 14, Int 16, Wis 14, Cha 13Skills Autohypnosis +6, Concentration +9 (+13 manifesting defensively), Diplomacy +4, Knowledge (psionics) +10, Listen +6, Psicraft +12, Spot +5Feats Combat Manifestation (B), Expanded Knowledge (B), Psicrystal Affinity, Psionic Body, Scribe Tattoo-----Shriek (Ex): Movement or a light source within 10 feet of a shrieker causes the fungus to emit a piercing sound that lasts for 1d3 rounds if the shrieker desires. The sound attracts nearby creatures that are disposed to investigate it. Some creatures that live near shriekers come to learn that the fungus’s noise means there is food nearby.[/sblock][sblock=Psicrystal]N Diminutive constructInit +2; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, Listen +6, Spot +6Language Undercommon-----AC 18 (+4 size, +2 Dex, +2 natural), touch 16, flat-footed 16hp 20 (7 HD); hardness 8Immune ability damage, ability drain, any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects, or isharmless), critical hits, disease, death effects, energy drain, exhaustion, fatigue, mind-affecting effects, necromancy effects, nonlethal damage, paralysis, poison, sleep, stunningFort +4, Ref +3, Will +4; improved evasion-----Spd 30 ft. (6 squares), climb 20 ft.Melee Touch touch +0Space 1 ft.; Reach 0 ft.Base Atk +0; Grp -17Attack Options deliver touch powersSpecial Actions personality, self-propulsion, share powers, sighted, telepathic link, telepathic speech-----Abilities Str 1, Dex 15, Con --, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 10Skills Autohypnosis +4, Climb +14, Concentration +7, Hide +14, Knowledge (psionics) +6, Listen +6, Move Silently +6, Psicraft +6, Search +3, Spot +6Feats Alertness-----Personality (Ex): Friendly, +3 bonus on Diplomacy checks.[/sblock]And one last plant monster to grow on.[sblock=Fiendish tendriculos; CR 8]NE Huge plant (extraplanar)Init -1; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, Listen +1, Spot +1-----AC 16 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +9 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 16hp 94 (9 HD); DR 5/magic; regeneration 10Immune critical hits, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, stunningResist cold 10, fire 10SR 14Fort +12, Ref +2, Will +4-----Spd 20 ft. (4 squares)Melee bite +13 (2d8+9) and 2 tendrils +8 (1d6+4)Space 15 ft.; Reach 15 ft.Base Atk +6; Grp +23Special Actions improved grab, paralysis, swallow whole-----Abilities Str 28, Dex 9, Con 22, Int 3, Wis 8, Cha 3Skills Hide +9, Listen +1, Move Silently +1, Spot +1Feats Alertness, Iron Will, Power Attack, Stealthy-----Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, a tendriculos must hit a creature at least one size smaller than itself with its bite attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold and can try to swallow the opponent in the following round. A tendriculos can also use its improved grab ability on a tendril attack. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold, picks up the opponent, and transfers it to the mouth as a free action, automatically dealing bite damage.Regeneration (Ex): Bludgeoning weapons and acid deal normal damage to a tendriculos. A tendriculos that loses part of its body mass can regrow it in 1d6 minutes. Holding the severed portion against the mass enables it to reattach instantly.Smite Good (Su): Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal 9 points of extra damage equal against a good foe.Swallow Whole/Paralysis (Ex): A tendriculos can try to swallow a grabbed opponent by making a successful grapple check. Once inside the plant’s mass, the opponent must succeed on a DC 20 Fortitude save or be paralyzed for 3d6 rounds by the tendriculos’s digestive juices, taking 2d6 points of acid damage per round. A new save is required each round inside the plant. The save DC is Constitution-based.A swallowed creature that avoids paralysis can climb out of the mass with a successful grapple check. This returns it to the plant’s maw, where another successful grapple check is needed to get free. A swallowed creature can also cut its way out by using a light slashing or piercing weapon to deal 25 points of damage to the tendriculos’s interior (AC 14). Once the creature exits, the plant’s regenerative capacity closes the hole; another swallowed opponent must cut its own way out. A Huge tendriculos’s interior can hold 2 Large, 8 Medium, 32 Small, 128 Tiny, or 512 Diminutive or smaller opponents.[/sblock]</blockquote>

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