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<blockquote data-quote="TheFindus" data-source="post: 5839186" data-attributes="member: 75791">Thank you for writing this. I agree completely about the awful design.&nbsp; But because of that, I really cannot say I love this module.&nbsp; Old-school play makes a difference between the experience of the player&nbsp; and the experience of the character. And adventures were designed that&nbsp; way. In G1-3 and D1-3, for example, it explicitly stated that the adventures &quot;are&nbsp; designed for play only by players of above-average ability who have&nbsp; characters of high level&quot;. That is why the problem with &quot;cocky&quot; players&nbsp; arises, because you can &quot;perform&quot; really well, over the top, really, in&nbsp; an adventure for low level characters if you are a very experienced player, knowing all the mysteries of the 10' pole and dropping sand everywhere to look for traps, etc. Or having to use a listening cone. Because being an experienced player and really does make a huge difference.What bothers me is that there seem to be people who hail this stuff as an outstanding roleplaying experience but claim that 4E is rather &quot;gamist&quot; and less creative.I say that responding to your post while assuming that you are not one of those, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheFindus, post: 5839186, member: 75791"] Thank you for writing this. I agree completely about the awful design. But because of that, I really cannot say I love this module. Old-school play makes a difference between the experience of the player and the experience of the character. And adventures were designed that way. In G1-3 and D1-3, for example, it explicitly stated that the adventures "are designed for play only by players of above-average ability who have characters of high level". That is why the problem with "cocky" players arises, because you can "perform" really well, over the top, really, in an adventure for low level characters if you are a very experienced player, knowing all the mysteries of the 10' pole and dropping sand everywhere to look for traps, etc. Or having to use a listening cone. Because being an experienced player and really does make a huge difference. What bothers me is that there seem to be people who hail this stuff as an outstanding roleplaying experience but claim that 4E is rather "gamist" and less creative. I say that responding to your post while assuming that you are not one of those, though. [/QUOTE]

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