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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9119940" data-attributes="member: 23751">I don't remember that post. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Okay, now that the joke is over, I seriously don't remember it.  It's not beyond the realm of possibility that I've forgotten it, but perhaps I just didn't see it.  Do you have a link that I could use to read it?Yep! I've made that point countless times and agreed with you making that point countless others, because it seems to need to be made a lot around here.Nothing in the dragon Sage Advice was a rule, though. It's all just advice on how the author of the article would rule it.  In the case of the Bard there's no rule that says to ignore the prior classes or rules that were gained using the The Character With Two Classes rules.  Those rules allow you to wear weapons and armor not permitted by your prior class once you pass the prior class level.  It even gives the example of a magic user/fighter being able to use, but not cast spells in, plate mail.The bard rules allow the two class limit to be broken, since it clearly has you go from fighter to thief to bard, but there's no other exception written down.  The Sage Advice is the author adding something to the bard rules via a non-rule ruling.  Once the bard is higher level than the fighter, per the written rules in the PHB the bard should be able to use fighter arms and armor, though since he casts as a druid any metal armor other than magical chain would negate all his bardic magical abilities.What the rules say is that the bard always fights as a fighter, which kinda gimps the bard since a 23rd level druid probably(I'm not going to check) fights better than a 5th-7th level fighter, but that doesn't mean that the other rules regarding the fighter levels in The Character With Two Classes don't apply.It would certainly be an interesting thread.Hah! I had a lot of magic users over the 1e years who would have died(and did!) to have 2 hit points.  At least with 2 hit points there exists the possibility of taking damage without falling unconscious.  Trying to get to 2nd level with 1 spell AND 1 hit point really blew chunks.</blockquote>

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