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Older dragons don't seem to do much damage.
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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6788710" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>It is the overall damage, not the individual attack damage, that scales.</p><p></p><p>In one turn an Ancient Black gets</p><p>1A: Fright (DC19 Wis), Bite +15 for 19, 2 claws +15 for 15 each</p><p>3 Legendaries: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tail +15 for 17 </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wing Buffet (counts as 2) 15'radius DC23 Dex vs 15+prone.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Automatically detect something hidden or invisible</li> </ul><p></p><p>So in one round it can usually neutralize 2-3 with fear, do 45 in melee, tail for another 17 vs someone who engages it, Wingbuffet when guy number 2 closes in and hit both for 15... So 92 DPR typical. And it's almost never missing. Hottest AC's I've seen in play are 25 with shield spell... and even then it's a 50/50. The wing buffet's 55% vs the VERY best PC's (Dex 20, proficient +6 for level 20).. Against a typical fighter of mid level, it's more like 90%.</p><p></p><p>An adult gets</p><p>1A: Fright (DC 16 Wis), Bite +11 for 15, 2 claws +11 for 13 each</p><p>3 Legendaries: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tail +15 for 15 </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wing Buffet (counts as 2) 10'radius DC19 Dex vs 13+prone.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Automatically detect something hidden or invisible</li> </ul><p></p><p>So, same calculations... Fear neutralizes 1-2, does 41 in melee, tail for 15, and buffet 2 for 26... 82 expected... except that the odds of hit are 6 points lower, too... but AC is only likely to climb about 3 points between "Adult is appropriate" and "Ancient is appropriate"... because by high levels (11-15), improvement in AC is usually "Can I get the correct magic armor?"</p><p></p><p>And the young?</p><p>1A Bite +7 for 15, 2 claws +7 for 11, no legendaries.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and if in lair, lair actions are the same regardless of age... If you want to make a young dragon nasty, put it in lair with some draconian "pets"/servants/sycophants - Drakes or dragonborn or kobolds.</p><p></p><p>Worse, make it a pair of nestmates working together... which is 4x the threat of 1 lone dragon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 6788710, member: 6779310"] It is the overall damage, not the individual attack damage, that scales. In one turn an Ancient Black gets 1A: Fright (DC19 Wis), Bite +15 for 19, 2 claws +15 for 15 each 3 Legendaries: [list][*]Tail +15 for 17 [*]Wing Buffet (counts as 2) 15'radius DC23 Dex vs 15+prone. [*]Automatically detect something hidden or invisible[/list] So in one round it can usually neutralize 2-3 with fear, do 45 in melee, tail for another 17 vs someone who engages it, Wingbuffet when guy number 2 closes in and hit both for 15... So 92 DPR typical. And it's almost never missing. Hottest AC's I've seen in play are 25 with shield spell... and even then it's a 50/50. The wing buffet's 55% vs the VERY best PC's (Dex 20, proficient +6 for level 20).. Against a typical fighter of mid level, it's more like 90%. An adult gets 1A: Fright (DC 16 Wis), Bite +11 for 15, 2 claws +11 for 13 each 3 Legendaries: [list][*]Tail +15 for 15 [*]Wing Buffet (counts as 2) 10'radius DC19 Dex vs 13+prone. [*]Automatically detect something hidden or invisible[/list] So, same calculations... Fear neutralizes 1-2, does 41 in melee, tail for 15, and buffet 2 for 26... 82 expected... except that the odds of hit are 6 points lower, too... but AC is only likely to climb about 3 points between "Adult is appropriate" and "Ancient is appropriate"... because by high levels (11-15), improvement in AC is usually "Can I get the correct magic armor?" And the young? 1A Bite +7 for 15, 2 claws +7 for 11, no legendaries. Oh, and if in lair, lair actions are the same regardless of age... If you want to make a young dragon nasty, put it in lair with some draconian "pets"/servants/sycophants - Drakes or dragonborn or kobolds. Worse, make it a pair of nestmates working together... which is 4x the threat of 1 lone dragon. [/QUOTE]
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