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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5315247" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I'm sorry you think that. I'm pretty sure that view is not supported well by what folks are saying here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, but you see, if you watched Trek, you'd know - in the third season, there were a hole bunch of episodes where you didn't really need Kirk or McCoy or Scotty. Spock was so super-special that he had all the answers.</p><p></p><p>"Mr. Spock, don't Vulcans have the ability levitate, juggle three balls behind their back, and do time-travel calculations in their head while blindfolded?"</p><p></p><p>"Yes, Captain, but it takes intense concentration."</p><p></p><p><em>*Poof!*</em></p><p></p><p>"Well, I guess it wasn't all that much concentration after all..."</p><p></p><p>That's the sort of thing some folks here are talking about. At low levels, the wizard had maybe a couple of spells a day, and then had to wait out being bored while the fighters hacked things to bits for the rest of the day. At high levels, the roles reversed, and the fighters tended to stand around while the wizards blasted things to bits. That's a problem, as some folks end up bored.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, no, you don't <em>need</em> it. But you didn't need a +5 Holy Avenger, either. Doesn't mean you don't want it, or that it isn't nice to have. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As above - you don't <em>need</em> the rules to be balanced to have the game play well. A good GM can have Superman and Indiana Jones in the same game, and have the players of both feel like they've both played major roles and had a good time. But, it takes more work or effort on the GM's part.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5315247, member: 177"] I'm sorry you think that. I'm pretty sure that view is not supported well by what folks are saying here. Ah, but you see, if you watched Trek, you'd know - in the third season, there were a hole bunch of episodes where you didn't really need Kirk or McCoy or Scotty. Spock was so super-special that he had all the answers. "Mr. Spock, don't Vulcans have the ability levitate, juggle three balls behind their back, and do time-travel calculations in their head while blindfolded?" "Yes, Captain, but it takes intense concentration." [I]*Poof!*[/I] "Well, I guess it wasn't all that much concentration after all..." That's the sort of thing some folks here are talking about. At low levels, the wizard had maybe a couple of spells a day, and then had to wait out being bored while the fighters hacked things to bits for the rest of the day. At high levels, the roles reversed, and the fighters tended to stand around while the wizards blasted things to bits. That's a problem, as some folks end up bored. Well, no, you don't [I]need[/I] it. But you didn't need a +5 Holy Avenger, either. Doesn't mean you don't want it, or that it isn't nice to have. :) As above - you don't [i]need[/i] the rules to be balanced to have the game play well. A good GM can have Superman and Indiana Jones in the same game, and have the players of both feel like they've both played major roles and had a good time. But, it takes more work or effort on the GM's part. [/QUOTE]
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