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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5326416" data-attributes="member: 18280">Not really sure to make of your post.  The longsword was a great weapon of choice for most fighters, yet nary a play of said fighter I ever met therefore concluded that they were going to autowin encounters because their character was so equiped!Again, we have the encounters in the Moathouse as stark evidence that sleep is not an autowin, and why this is so. Sleep became NOT an auto-winner when the you read the spell descriptions and follow the rules.  Ergo, it follows that sleep is an autowin only when the spell descriptions are not read, and the rules not followed.Useful =/= autowin.BEST =/= best (after X, of course).Of course, we can have a "We don't read the rules, and we are finding 4e unbalanced, but it is the fault of the rules, and not our fault, and we refuse to learn from our mistakes when you point them out, therefore CaGI is an autowin" discussion, if you really like, but I seriously doubt it would be any more productive!  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />RC</blockquote>