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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5326451" data-attributes="member: 18280">I didn't go by memory; I looked up the rules.&nbsp; &quot;Able to effect XdY&quot; isn't an auto-win.&nbsp; Period.Do I need to cut &amp; paste the Moathouse encounters again?&nbsp; Esp. for those monsters where the XdY range includes a potential result of 0, or where the number of creatures encountered falls outside the maximum of XdY.&nbsp; Even where the number of creatures falls within the range of XdY, it is only an autowin if the number is the minimum of XdY.And, since sleep affects creatures in a 30-ft diameter, the creatures must be bunched up.&nbsp; Sleep is not an autowin against even two giant rats, if they are more than 30 ft. away from each other.&nbsp;Again, &quot;useful&quot; =/= Autowin.Not autowin =/= not useful.I can cut &amp; paste the Moathouse encounters for you again, if you need me to.Or we could have that discussion about how 4e is unbalanced because a player doesn't know the rules, refuses to accept the rules when they are pointed out, and nonetheless blames the rules rather than himself.&nbsp; I'm sure it'll be a hoot.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5326451, member: 18280"] I didn't go by memory; I looked up the rules. "Able to effect XdY" isn't an auto-win. Period. Do I need to cut & paste the Moathouse encounters again? Esp. for those monsters where the XdY range includes a potential result of 0, or where the number of creatures encountered falls outside the maximum of XdY. Even where the number of creatures falls within the range of XdY, it is only an autowin if the number is the minimum of XdY. And, since sleep affects creatures in a 30-ft diameter, the creatures must be bunched up. Sleep is not an autowin against even two giant rats, if they are more than 30 ft. away from each other. Again, "useful" =/= Autowin. Not autowin =/= not useful. I can cut & paste the Moathouse encounters for you again, if you need me to. Or we could have that discussion about how 4e is unbalanced because a player doesn't know the rules, refuses to accept the rules when they are pointed out, and nonetheless blames the rules rather than himself. I'm sure it'll be a hoot. RC [/QUOTE]

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