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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9439228" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>I know! I just heard the stupid facts about Jesse Owens and Luz Long, and it wrecked that good story. Sure, it deepened it. It corrected the historical record. And it actually made sense.</p><p></p><p>But it also kinda sorta sucked. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A few things on this-</p><p></p><p>1. I heard this before I traveled and didn't have time to post it, but I recommend listening to this:</p><p>[MEDIA=npr]i=1197961314;m=1257075081[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>This was before the controversy, but it's a fascinating look at how breaking became a sport, and an introduction into the controversies regarding scoring in breaking and in other sports that rely on judging, and why some people aren't necessarily in favor of a more objective scoring metric that would require certain moves, etc.</p><p></p><p>2. In my original post introducing the breaking (and Raygun) issue that I made after watching the performances live, but before the storm of memes and controversy, I made the point that it just didn't deserve the hate. She was outmatched, and knew it. But she performed, and she made some ... <em>interesting </em>and unorthodox choices. If you look at the finals (THE FINALS!) of the Oceania competition, you can see that her performance isn't the same, but neither she nor her competition has the level of skill that we saw from the very top performers from elsewhere. She could have just lost, but instead chose to lose with a little oomph. </p><p></p><p>3. Was she really that much worse than the Moroccan B-girl (lost 18-0, 18-0, 16-2, and her 16-2 loss was to the Italian B-girl who lost her other matched 17-1, 16-2)?</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>The internet is like a play that changes every day. And every day on t he internet there is one main character in the play. The goal is to never be it.</em></p><p></p><p>I always worry about these sorts of things! I wonder how many people could break as well as she does? I mean, she might suck, but I suck so much harder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9439228, member: 7023840"] I know! I just heard the stupid facts about Jesse Owens and Luz Long, and it wrecked that good story. Sure, it deepened it. It corrected the historical record. And it actually made sense. But it also kinda sorta sucked. A few things on this- 1. I heard this before I traveled and didn't have time to post it, but I recommend listening to this: [MEDIA=npr]i=1197961314;m=1257075081[/MEDIA] This was before the controversy, but it's a fascinating look at how breaking became a sport, and an introduction into the controversies regarding scoring in breaking and in other sports that rely on judging, and why some people aren't necessarily in favor of a more objective scoring metric that would require certain moves, etc. 2. In my original post introducing the breaking (and Raygun) issue that I made after watching the performances live, but before the storm of memes and controversy, I made the point that it just didn't deserve the hate. She was outmatched, and knew it. But she performed, and she made some ... [I]interesting [/I]and unorthodox choices. If you look at the finals (THE FINALS!) of the Oceania competition, you can see that her performance isn't the same, but neither she nor her competition has the level of skill that we saw from the very top performers from elsewhere. She could have just lost, but instead chose to lose with a little oomph. 3. Was she really that much worse than the Moroccan B-girl (lost 18-0, 18-0, 16-2, and her 16-2 loss was to the Italian B-girl who lost her other matched 17-1, 16-2)? [I]The internet is like a play that changes every day. And every day on t he internet there is one main character in the play. The goal is to never be it.[/I] I always worry about these sorts of things! I wonder how many people could break as well as she does? I mean, she might suck, but I suck so much harder. [/QUOTE]
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