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<blockquote data-quote="Ashtal" data-source="post: 53183" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>I think there is a middle-ground position here: You can defend the skating itself, but you cannot defend the corrupt judging and problematic judging.</p><p></p><p>It's been allowed to be corrupted, it fosters corruption, and it needs to be fixed. There's a difference between knowing that a judge will define by his or her abilities what is good and what is not and judging to the best of their human ability, and the outright buying/swapping/blackmailing of votes by a regional block as we've seen over and over in skating (and hey, North American/Allied countries aren't always fair either - it does go both ways).</p><p></p><p>I feel for the athletes. I can't imagine they go to these things in the belief that they have no real 'say' (as in their technical expertise and artistic imagination) in how they will place in the event, but rather on how the countries decide to allow them to be ranked. They are hoping their work will speak for itself. </p><p></p><p>Eventually, though, people who think skating should be dropped because it's not a 'sport' will get their way if these things aren't fixed. People will stop watching and athletes will stop participating, not because it isn't a sport, but because it isn't fair. And IMHO that would be a loss.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens. Canadian skating officials are trying to really play the "we're not trying to pull someone down, we're trying to bring someone up" angle, and pointing out that there is nothing in the rules that prevents medals from being switched, or, as they've put forth, awarding a second pair of Golds to Canada. What will be unfortunate is that if this isn't resolved, and votes were literally bought, the reprocussions of this will be felt as quickly as the arrival of the dance competition, where the French don't have a judge but have an entrant. How can these possibly be allowed to continue when the investigation hasn't even begun? Is it acceptable to just let the matches continue, knowing that SOMETHING is up, and will play out to its corrupt conclusion?</p><p></p><p>*sigh* What a mess.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ashtal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashtal, post: 53183, member: 3"] I think there is a middle-ground position here: You can defend the skating itself, but you cannot defend the corrupt judging and problematic judging. It's been allowed to be corrupted, it fosters corruption, and it needs to be fixed. There's a difference between knowing that a judge will define by his or her abilities what is good and what is not and judging to the best of their human ability, and the outright buying/swapping/blackmailing of votes by a regional block as we've seen over and over in skating (and hey, North American/Allied countries aren't always fair either - it does go both ways). I feel for the athletes. I can't imagine they go to these things in the belief that they have no real 'say' (as in their technical expertise and artistic imagination) in how they will place in the event, but rather on how the countries decide to allow them to be ranked. They are hoping their work will speak for itself. Eventually, though, people who think skating should be dropped because it's not a 'sport' will get their way if these things aren't fixed. People will stop watching and athletes will stop participating, not because it isn't a sport, but because it isn't fair. And IMHO that would be a loss. Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens. Canadian skating officials are trying to really play the "we're not trying to pull someone down, we're trying to bring someone up" angle, and pointing out that there is nothing in the rules that prevents medals from being switched, or, as they've put forth, awarding a second pair of Golds to Canada. What will be unfortunate is that if this isn't resolved, and votes were literally bought, the reprocussions of this will be felt as quickly as the arrival of the dance competition, where the French don't have a judge but have an entrant. How can these possibly be allowed to continue when the investigation hasn't even begun? Is it acceptable to just let the matches continue, knowing that SOMETHING is up, and will play out to its corrupt conclusion? *sigh* What a mess. Ashtal [/QUOTE]
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