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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GoodKingJayIII" data-source="post: 3720975" data-attributes="member: 13804">This doesn't surprise me that much.  A while back there was an article about running a dragon as an effective CR 20+ challenge at a con.  In the article, the author (might've been Wyatt, actually) showed how he'd taken the dragons breath weapon (which was somewhere in the range of 20d4) broken it down to about 8-10 dice, and then averaged the rest of the dice and added that on as a bonus to damage.I thought it was a great idea.  GMs have enough dice to roll as it is, and I'm sure we've all had to deal with the one guy who rolls a single d6 10 times?  It's pretty ludicrous and takes forever.  I'm all for rolling less dice.</blockquote>