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<blockquote data-quote="Telperion" data-source="post: 1447958" data-attributes="member: 15711"><p>I was also unaware of the change, but when I was generating a PC bard for an upcoming one-shot session I got seriously interested in this little detail.</p><p></p><p>Sure, there's a Will-save, but if the BBEG botches, or simply rolls really bad, then the BBEG gets to sit around and watch while his cronies are cut to pieces. And he also gets a good belly laugh while he's doing it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> . Back in 3.0 I never really saw much use for <em>Tasha's Hideous Laughter</em> spell since <em>Hold Person</em> was so much better. </p><p></p><p>Since 3.5 came out the scales have been reversed. <em>Tasha's Hideous Laughter</em> is now definitely the better of the two spells. </p><p>-You can target any creature that is subject to mind-effecting magic.</p><p>-Duration is 1 round / level.</p><p>-Only 1 Will save.</p><p></p><p><em>Hold Person</em>: </p><p>-You can target only humanoids or monstrous humanoids.</p><p>-Duration is the same, but target gets a new Will-save each round.</p><p>-Target is helpless (Coup de grace, anyone?)</p><p></p><p>Considering that <em>Tasha's Hideous Laughter</em> is a 1st level Bard spell and <em>Hold Person</em> is a 2nd level Bard spell I don't think many bards will be opting for Hold Person in my group from now on. Add Spell Focus and the Will save gets a boost as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Telperion, post: 1447958, member: 15711"] I was also unaware of the change, but when I was generating a PC bard for an upcoming one-shot session I got seriously interested in this little detail. Sure, there's a Will-save, but if the BBEG botches, or simply rolls really bad, then the BBEG gets to sit around and watch while his cronies are cut to pieces. And he also gets a good belly laugh while he's doing it :D . Back in 3.0 I never really saw much use for [I]Tasha's Hideous Laughter[/I] spell since [I]Hold Person[/I] was so much better. Since 3.5 came out the scales have been reversed. [I]Tasha's Hideous Laughter[/I] is now definitely the better of the two spells. -You can target any creature that is subject to mind-effecting magic. -Duration is 1 round / level. -Only 1 Will save. [I]Hold Person[/I]: -You can target only humanoids or monstrous humanoids. -Duration is the same, but target gets a new Will-save each round. -Target is helpless (Coup de grace, anyone?) Considering that [I]Tasha's Hideous Laughter[/I] is a 1st level Bard spell and [I]Hold Person[/I] is a 2nd level Bard spell I don't think many bards will be opting for Hold Person in my group from now on. Add Spell Focus and the Will save gets a boost as well. [/QUOTE]
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