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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 5899094" data-attributes="member: 40166">Everyone always says that the connection of attributes to skills was a bad thing, and points to Intimidate. That seems to be the outlier; there doesn't seem to be another skill that regularly needs to be used with another attribute, and even when they do, making the changes doesn't seem to be a big deal; minus one attribute, add another.I have a mixed feeling about loosening up skills. As a general rule, in D&amp;D 3 and PF, I can look in the PHB and know what my PC can do. If I'm looking at a chasm, I clearly know whether trying to jump it would be stupid, daring, or trivial. Even if the DM is consistent, it's hard to get that with a loose skill system, and if the DM is not consistent, it can be impossible to make a character that's sufficiently good at something to make me happy. Already, you can run into DMs where most beggers can see through a 35 Bluff; encouraging or expanding that doesn't really make me happy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 5899094, member: 40166"] Everyone always says that the connection of attributes to skills was a bad thing, and points to Intimidate. That seems to be the outlier; there doesn't seem to be another skill that regularly needs to be used with another attribute, and even when they do, making the changes doesn't seem to be a big deal; minus one attribute, add another. I have a mixed feeling about loosening up skills. As a general rule, in D&D 3 and PF, I can look in the PHB and know what my PC can do. If I'm looking at a chasm, I clearly know whether trying to jump it would be stupid, daring, or trivial. Even if the DM is consistent, it's hard to get that with a loose skill system, and if the DM is not consistent, it can be impossible to make a character that's sufficiently good at something to make me happy. Already, you can run into DMs where most beggers can see through a 35 Bluff; encouraging or expanding that doesn't really make me happy. [/QUOTE]

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