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<blockquote data-quote="Keefe the Thief" data-source="post: 4768271" data-attributes="member: 49552">For a 35-year-old that found that 4e was pretty much the &quot;Wocts-brainreading-rays-have-copied-all-my-wishes!&quot;-RPG, that was a very interesting read, Joethelawyer. I fully understand what you mean: a new edition always means rules change AND style change to boot, and sooner or later you´ll simply go &quot;why bother?&quot;However, i admit, at the end of your post i would have expected a &quot;and now i´m leaving for Dragonsfoot, where real D&amp;D is still appreciated.&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I hope this doesn´t sound negative, but your post also shows me that 4e did something right: a RPG has to change not only rules but also its look &amp; feel to stay current. Your rejection of 4e (and other similar posts) show me that 4e was much more successful in finding its own identity than 3e. Honestly, especially regarding to philosophy, 3e tried far too often to eat its cake and keep it, too: simulate older editions while grafting new ideas on.Note: no edition war intended, lets all get along. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Keefe the Thief, post: 4768271, member: 49552"] For a 35-year-old that found that 4e was pretty much the "Wocts-brainreading-rays-have-copied-all-my-wishes!"-RPG, that was a very interesting read, Joethelawyer. I fully understand what you mean: a new edition always means rules change AND style change to boot, and sooner or later you´ll simply go "why bother?" However, i admit, at the end of your post i would have expected a "and now i´m leaving for Dragonsfoot, where real D&D is still appreciated." ;) I hope this doesn´t sound negative, but your post also shows me that 4e did something right: a RPG has to change not only rules but also its look & feel to stay current. Your rejection of 4e (and other similar posts) show me that 4e was much more successful in finding its own identity than 3e. Honestly, especially regarding to philosophy, 3e tried far too often to eat its cake and keep it, too: simulate older editions while grafting new ideas on. Note: no edition war intended, lets all get along. :lol: [/QUOTE]

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