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<blockquote data-quote="niklinna" data-source="post: 8970104" data-attributes="member: 71235">Interestingly, I'm in a Blades in the Dark campaign with [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER] (and [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER], [USER=70468]@kenada[/USER], and [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER]), in which we often split up to do scores with a subset of the crew, right down to solo. So we've had plenty of opportunity in that specific campaign to do the &quot;non-optimal&quot; thing. It's had knockon effects with tiering up and XP and all that, but even so this campaign feels markedly different from the first one I was in, where the whole crew was always in on the same score together. But even then, since you have XP triggers based on dealing with your vice/trauma, and such, folks leaned into that even when it caused complications.In a similar vein, in Torchbearer, you have to fail in order to get skill-ups and rest checks and the like. Doing the &quot;sub-optimal&quot; thing is baked into the system. It's really quite brilliant in its way. I've got some quibbles with class feature choices, and the books really needed an editor, but still.This one's always a challenge. I remember back when I played (vanilla) World of Warcraft, the one class I could not stand to play was the paladin. I could survive anything, but combats routinely took 3-5 times as long as with any other class.And now I am reminded of the episode in the tram tunnel where the dwarf stumbled upon a pair of night elves engaged in hanky-panky. Hilarity ensued. At least for the dwarf and for us.But again, Torchbearer had some pretty darn immersive times, at least for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="niklinna, post: 8970104, member: 71235"] Interestingly, I'm in a Blades in the Dark campaign with [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER] (and [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER], [USER=70468]@kenada[/USER], and [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER]), in which we often split up to do scores with a subset of the crew, right down to solo. So we've had plenty of opportunity in that specific campaign to do the "non-optimal" thing. It's had knockon effects with tiering up and XP and all that, but even so this campaign feels markedly different from the first one I was in, where the whole crew was always in on the same score together. But even then, since you have XP triggers based on dealing with your vice/trauma, and such, folks leaned into that even when it caused complications. In a similar vein, in Torchbearer, you [I]have to fail[/I] in order to get skill-ups and rest checks and the like. Doing the "sub-optimal" thing is baked into the system. It's really quite brilliant in its way. I've got some quibbles with class feature choices, and the books really needed an editor, but still. This one's always a challenge. I remember back when I played (vanilla) World of Warcraft, the one class I could not stand to play was the paladin. I could survive anything, but combats routinely took 3-5 times as long as with any other class. And now I am reminded of the episode in the tram tunnel where the dwarf stumbled upon a pair of night elves engaged in hanky-panky. Hilarity ensued. At least for the dwarf and for us. But again, Torchbearer had some pretty darn immersive times, at least for me. [/QUOTE]

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