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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9404238"><p>Again I have very little interest in the Gygax debate itself. But if we are just strictly looking at OD&D, most of those elements are no longer in the game. The majority of what people argue now are residual traces of impurity in the tropes (something I think we have taken way too far, to the extent it makes campaigns and games less playable because we work ourselves in circles trying to excise things like evil orcs). On stuff from Gary specifically. Obviously like any book from the 70s, I read those things and found passages I disagreed with or didn't like. Here I am talking stuff that is strictly in the game books themselves, not weird statements he has made in obscure gaming magazines. Overall I find his writing style very entertaining, but I understand 1) it comes from a very different cultural context and 2) comes from an eccentric man who seems to have had political views that I disagree with strongly (I find those emerge from time to time, often as humorous quips, but sometimes more pronounced. However there are very few aspects of the game where it presents a problem. Maybe there are lines of text, which again, I would contextualize and maybe even find a bit funny just because they sound outrageous now. An evil matriarchy trope isn't going to trouble me for example. A 'brazen strumpet' makes me laugh because there is definitely humor there, but I always ignore that stuff because I don't like the idea of RPing a brazen strumpet coming on to the party (I am not outraged that it is there, I just wouldn't be comfortable roleplaying that).</p></blockquote><p></p>

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