Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
On Early D&D and Problematic Faves: How to Grapple with the Sins of the Past
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9405878" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Sure, but 80 to 90% of people don't care about dead authors and their opinions. </p><p></p><p>Even Hussar, who has been very very vocal in their dislike of H.P. Lovecraft and their virulent racism, has never once said that someone cannot enjoy works in the Mythos... the most they have ever stated is that they cannot enjoy them (because of the racism) and that they wish DnD didn't recommend the books to people (because of the racism). </p><p></p><p>And stating that Lovecraft was a racist, and that you don't want to read his works, because they are full of racism... really no one I have ever seen has seriously said that they can't understand the that viewpoint. </p><p></p><p>Where we tend to get a lot more muddled and complicated, is living authors. Because then there is no historical events to research and see that we live in a different Era. No... they live today, in our era. They are actively working in the industries they are in, they are actively shaping conversations around them. And sometimes those "alternative takes" on their work is important. </p><p></p><p>I mean, Rowling can state she had no alternative motives with her crime novel, but as a very active voice declaring that all transwomen are really predators seeking to harm women, and pushing for laws against their existence, making the murderer in her story a mentally unstable (and ugly) man who dresses as a woman (but is clearly an ugly man) to sneak into women's spaces to murder women.... Well, she can state that she wasn't pushing an agenda, but kind of hard to defend that, isn't it? And for many people, it becomes really concerning when people go and buy that particular book "because it is such a good story" </p><p></p><p>Or when the guy behind Shadiversity published his book that was practically pro-rape, right around the time his misogynistic beliefs were coming to light. Makes it really hard to say that you want to go and buy his book and support him, because it is REALLY clear what was motivating some of his writing. [I haven't read the book, but passages of it were read in a review I watched, and it was HORRIFYING]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9405878, member: 6801228"] Sure, but 80 to 90% of people don't care about dead authors and their opinions. Even Hussar, who has been very very vocal in their dislike of H.P. Lovecraft and their virulent racism, has never once said that someone cannot enjoy works in the Mythos... the most they have ever stated is that they cannot enjoy them (because of the racism) and that they wish DnD didn't recommend the books to people (because of the racism). And stating that Lovecraft was a racist, and that you don't want to read his works, because they are full of racism... really no one I have ever seen has seriously said that they can't understand the that viewpoint. Where we tend to get a lot more muddled and complicated, is living authors. Because then there is no historical events to research and see that we live in a different Era. No... they live today, in our era. They are actively working in the industries they are in, they are actively shaping conversations around them. And sometimes those "alternative takes" on their work is important. I mean, Rowling can state she had no alternative motives with her crime novel, but as a very active voice declaring that all transwomen are really predators seeking to harm women, and pushing for laws against their existence, making the murderer in her story a mentally unstable (and ugly) man who dresses as a woman (but is clearly an ugly man) to sneak into women's spaces to murder women.... Well, she can state that she wasn't pushing an agenda, but kind of hard to defend that, isn't it? And for many people, it becomes really concerning when people go and buy that particular book "because it is such a good story" Or when the guy behind Shadiversity published his book that was practically pro-rape, right around the time his misogynistic beliefs were coming to light. Makes it really hard to say that you want to go and buy his book and support him, because it is REALLY clear what was motivating some of his writing. [I haven't read the book, but passages of it were read in a review I watched, and it was HORRIFYING] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
On Early D&D and Problematic Faves: How to Grapple with the Sins of the Past
Top