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<blockquote data-quote="Beleriphon" data-source="post: 7893792" data-attributes="member: 27847"><p>Cheering for the Toronto Maple Leafs is always dumb. "<em>They'll win the Cup this year for sure!</em>" is a regular refrain of any Leafs fan. But you could pick worse team for enthusiasm of its fans however, they are a crazy bunch. Most of them are in full awareness of how terrible their favourite team actually is.</p><p></p><p>Gatekeeping in your analogy would be more like asking what position they played in junior hockey, and then kind of dismissing or mocking our prospective fan for not having played hockey (maybe not even being able to skate) but wanted to get excited about participating in hockey as a fan. That's different then warning about the madness they might be in for as a Leafs fan.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would say no, you're making a valid criticism of a media format as a potential piece of advice to anybody that does want to play. I'd like to think most prospective players can see that CR and its ilk are basically Professional D&D in the way that NHL players in no way represent what you get if you go play adult house league (despite what some jerks that play think of themselves).</p><p></p><p>Gatekeeping is more akin to being a total douche about somebody saying they like D&D, but only watch CR or listen to a game podcast. Asking a question like "Hey, you don't play? Have you tried it?" is okay. At least from what I read from Morrus is saying.</p><p></p><p>However, going with some variant of: "That's not real D&D. Go play a game" is gatekeeping.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a difference between gatekeeping my personal space, or Morrus' personal website, and acting like you're the best and final arbiter of what makes a "true" fan/participant in a hobby. I fully expect that I don't get to play in your game if I'm a jerk. That just means I can't play in your game, but it doesn't mean you decide if I'm a D&D fan at all.</p><p></p><p>There's the gatekeeping we're talking about, you are somehow taking it upon yourself to "protect" D&D from all those unwashed heathens out there that don't "get it".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beleriphon, post: 7893792, member: 27847"] Cheering for the Toronto Maple Leafs is always dumb. "[I]They'll win the Cup this year for sure![/I]" is a regular refrain of any Leafs fan. But you could pick worse team for enthusiasm of its fans however, they are a crazy bunch. Most of them are in full awareness of how terrible their favourite team actually is. Gatekeeping in your analogy would be more like asking what position they played in junior hockey, and then kind of dismissing or mocking our prospective fan for not having played hockey (maybe not even being able to skate) but wanted to get excited about participating in hockey as a fan. That's different then warning about the madness they might be in for as a Leafs fan. I would say no, you're making a valid criticism of a media format as a potential piece of advice to anybody that does want to play. I'd like to think most prospective players can see that CR and its ilk are basically Professional D&D in the way that NHL players in no way represent what you get if you go play adult house league (despite what some jerks that play think of themselves). Gatekeeping is more akin to being a total douche about somebody saying they like D&D, but only watch CR or listen to a game podcast. Asking a question like "Hey, you don't play? Have you tried it?" is okay. At least from what I read from Morrus is saying. However, going with some variant of: "That's not real D&D. Go play a game" is gatekeeping. There's a difference between gatekeeping my personal space, or Morrus' personal website, and acting like you're the best and final arbiter of what makes a "true" fan/participant in a hobby. I fully expect that I don't get to play in your game if I'm a jerk. That just means I can't play in your game, but it doesn't mean you decide if I'm a D&D fan at all. There's the gatekeeping we're talking about, you are somehow taking it upon yourself to "protect" D&D from all those unwashed heathens out there that don't "get it". [/QUOTE]
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