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<blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 7895391" data-attributes="member: 6796661"><p>Regarding enjoying streaming being generational, I'm 48 and enjoy listening to live-stream TTRPG. Having played in the 80s and stopping in the early 90s, when I got back into the hobby with 5e after a long time of not playing any TTRPGs at all, I was bit by the gaming bug hard. Besides running my once-a-month, 8-hour session as a DM, and occasionally playing or running one shots at the LFGS and local convention when time permitted, I devoured related content in all its forms:</p><p></p><p>* Started with some old Chris Perkins videos on running the game, which was basically live play over dubbed with commentary</p><p></p><p>* From there discovered Acquisitions Incorporated, of whiched I've listed to and watched everyone, including watching it in live streamed into a local movie theater</p><p></p><p>* I started reading the old Sword & Sorcery series that inspired the early gamers (Connan, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, Dying Earth), reread Dragon Lance, etc. </p><p></p><p>* I listened to a lot of streamed play, but usually the recordings via pod casts, mainly Critical Role, Dragon Friends, and Godsfall</p><p></p><p>* I've spent way too much time on forums like EnWorld</p><p></p><p>Because of work and family schedule, much of this is done is binged, when I have chunks of time available, but pod casts are one of the easier forms of gaming content to consume. I listened to the first season of Critical Role while mowing the lawn and doing other yard work. </p><p></p><p>Shows like Critical Role are engaging because they have talented DMs who are great and world building and story telling and the players are all talented voice actors. Dragon Friends is fun because you have professional improv comedians playing through adventures I'm familiar with in front of a live audience. It isn't just watching a group of people playing--though that can be fun as well--it is a form of entertainment that melds acting, engaging stories, improv, put within the structure of game rules, the story rule by the roll of a d20. </p><p></p><p>There are other players in my home game around the same age who also enjoy it. So, I don't think this is a gen X v. millennial thing at all, at least not in my experience. </p><p></p><p>People who love playing poker and golf can enjoy spending many hours watching others play those game, some who don't play only enjoy these games as spectators. I see nothing strange or difficult to understand about some people being the same about TTRPGs, especially since TTRPG streams involve stories. This melding of story telling and gaming is an exciting new form of entertainment and I predict that it will grow to the point where more people are fans as spectators than players for the same reasons as this is the case with other form of entertainment. </p><p></p><p>And I see no problem with this at all. I like watching modern dance, but I hate actively participating in it. I like playing poker and I like fishing but have not interest in watching people do these activities. I like playing and watching TTRPG games. Other people will have different preferences. </p><p></p><p>Kinda hard for me to understand why anyone would care whether someone else participates in a hobby as a participant versus a spectator. It's difficult to understand why someone would play the role of gatekeeper when there is no gate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNblockhead, post: 7895391, member: 6796661"] Regarding enjoying streaming being generational, I'm 48 and enjoy listening to live-stream TTRPG. Having played in the 80s and stopping in the early 90s, when I got back into the hobby with 5e after a long time of not playing any TTRPGs at all, I was bit by the gaming bug hard. Besides running my once-a-month, 8-hour session as a DM, and occasionally playing or running one shots at the LFGS and local convention when time permitted, I devoured related content in all its forms: * Started with some old Chris Perkins videos on running the game, which was basically live play over dubbed with commentary * From there discovered Acquisitions Incorporated, of whiched I've listed to and watched everyone, including watching it in live streamed into a local movie theater * I started reading the old Sword & Sorcery series that inspired the early gamers (Connan, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, Dying Earth), reread Dragon Lance, etc. * I listened to a lot of streamed play, but usually the recordings via pod casts, mainly Critical Role, Dragon Friends, and Godsfall * I've spent way too much time on forums like EnWorld Because of work and family schedule, much of this is done is binged, when I have chunks of time available, but pod casts are one of the easier forms of gaming content to consume. I listened to the first season of Critical Role while mowing the lawn and doing other yard work. Shows like Critical Role are engaging because they have talented DMs who are great and world building and story telling and the players are all talented voice actors. Dragon Friends is fun because you have professional improv comedians playing through adventures I'm familiar with in front of a live audience. It isn't just watching a group of people playing--though that can be fun as well--it is a form of entertainment that melds acting, engaging stories, improv, put within the structure of game rules, the story rule by the roll of a d20. There are other players in my home game around the same age who also enjoy it. So, I don't think this is a gen X v. millennial thing at all, at least not in my experience. People who love playing poker and golf can enjoy spending many hours watching others play those game, some who don't play only enjoy these games as spectators. I see nothing strange or difficult to understand about some people being the same about TTRPGs, especially since TTRPG streams involve stories. This melding of story telling and gaming is an exciting new form of entertainment and I predict that it will grow to the point where more people are fans as spectators than players for the same reasons as this is the case with other form of entertainment. And I see no problem with this at all. I like watching modern dance, but I hate actively participating in it. I like playing poker and I like fishing but have not interest in watching people do these activities. I like playing and watching TTRPG games. Other people will have different preferences. Kinda hard for me to understand why anyone would care whether someone else participates in a hobby as a participant versus a spectator. It's difficult to understand why someone would play the role of gatekeeper when there is no gate. [/QUOTE]
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