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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 4785798" data-attributes="member: 15538">My PCs came upon a group of ogres guarding an underground complex. After some brief discussion, they decided to lead with a fireball from a wand and rush. "I mean, they're just ogres." Little did they realize that only two of the ogres were just ogres; the other two were ogre barbarians from the MM, and because they did not stop to ask about the ogres equipment or to detect magic, they were subsequently surprised by the ogres' resistance. Even so, the party's barbarian decided to reserve her rage for a tougher encounter. In round one, one of the ogre barbarians went into a rage, attacked with Power Attack for -5/+10, and critted, killing her PC instantly. If she had used her rage ability, she would have survived. Later comment: "I am striking the phrase 'They're just ogres,' from my working vocabulary."</blockquote>