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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 8247390" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>I am amazed that I have become a grognard - I think? - based on my 3 decades of play, starting with 2nd ed. I really liked the feel of that edition (well, maybe not skills and powers...). But man where those rules wonky.</p><p></p><p>So when 3e came out in my early 20s, it was a god send. A unified d20 system! DCs! Saves that made sense! Skills! Uberclerics! </p><p></p><p>But then I stepped away from D&D for a while, and played and ran other games. Lots of Warhammer frpg 2nd ed. Did Star Wars Saga (loved it), played in a 3e eberon game with a PF alchemist (good times!) but that was the only d20 stuff I did for a solid decade, I missed late stage 3.5e, PF, and I skipped 4e (dabbled a <em>little</em> bit but not enough to "count"). </p><p></p><p>I got into 5e maybe 2 years after it was released. I remember making a comment here about barbarians that was ridiculously wrong <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> (in 3e it would have been totally valid though). And... in many ways, I think 5e is the best edition of the game I've played. It has some issues - HP bloat, weird pacing, perhaps a <em>tiny</em> bit too simple? - but overall, it felt great.</p><p></p><p>I also started playing a PF 1e game maybe a year after that and... oof. The complexity is just... it's too much. I give example from our games and people think I'm lying, the math required to do an attack... I think those games would be <em>so much better</em> if we played them in 5e. And that's what I think I also like about the older rule set - the simplicity.</p><p></p><p>I've also been exploring some "OSR" stuff - the GLOG has been very entertaining (it's like B/x and 5e had a child who was secretly replaced by a goblin...), and so has been Troika! (which is based on the first RPG I ever played!). I also think that the setting work done in the OSR sphere are extremely good - I encourage everyone to check out Yoon-Suin or UVG.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 8247390, member: 23"] I am amazed that I have become a grognard - I think? - based on my 3 decades of play, starting with 2nd ed. I really liked the feel of that edition (well, maybe not skills and powers...). But man where those rules wonky. So when 3e came out in my early 20s, it was a god send. A unified d20 system! DCs! Saves that made sense! Skills! Uberclerics! But then I stepped away from D&D for a while, and played and ran other games. Lots of Warhammer frpg 2nd ed. Did Star Wars Saga (loved it), played in a 3e eberon game with a PF alchemist (good times!) but that was the only d20 stuff I did for a solid decade, I missed late stage 3.5e, PF, and I skipped 4e (dabbled a [I]little[/I] bit but not enough to "count"). I got into 5e maybe 2 years after it was released. I remember making a comment here about barbarians that was ridiculously wrong :D (in 3e it would have been totally valid though). And... in many ways, I think 5e is the best edition of the game I've played. It has some issues - HP bloat, weird pacing, perhaps a [I]tiny[/I] bit too simple? - but overall, it felt great. I also started playing a PF 1e game maybe a year after that and... oof. The complexity is just... it's too much. I give example from our games and people think I'm lying, the math required to do an attack... I think those games would be [I]so much better[/I] if we played them in 5e. And that's what I think I also like about the older rule set - the simplicity. I've also been exploring some "OSR" stuff - the GLOG has been very entertaining (it's like B/x and 5e had a child who was secretly replaced by a goblin...), and so has been Troika! (which is based on the first RPG I ever played!). I also think that the setting work done in the OSR sphere are extremely good - I encourage everyone to check out Yoon-Suin or UVG. [/QUOTE]
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