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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8247667" data-attributes="member: 15700">Yeah, I think that was a critical error on WoTC's part.  Seems like they took some of the louder voices who self proclaim themselves as speaking for the OSR without actually looking at what they were doing or who they were bringing in.  I'm not going to get into the specifics as to why those couple of of guys they consulted were bad choices (it's pretty easy to find out just by going to their platforms), but I'll just say that when you are driving out several members of the original guard out of the OSR, people who where there at the literal beginning alongside Gary helping create this game we all love (I'm not just talking about one or two, but many of the original creators) because of severe toxic attitudes from those who claim to represent the OSR, then that's a huge problem.  How can you say you love the OSR (let along proclaim to speak for it), when your behavior is driving out the people who were the ones who literally created the game in the first place?  IMO, you can't.I have a big problem with seeing many of the people whose work and contributions created a hobby I love, be treated with disdain and driven out of the very groups they created by toxic people.  I'm also 100% certain that rather than acknowledge this problem ("hey, why are many of the old guard leaving the OSR?), these people will go to their respected safe spaces (ironically while complaining about safe spaces) to talk smack about me personally and blame "woke" culture.  Cuz that's how the internet works.</blockquote>

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