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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8247731" data-attributes="member: 15700">Agreed.This is just speculation on my part, but the more and more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it has some accuracy.  When the WotC team became "woke" (I actually hate that term, because it's usually only spoken by people as a pejorative when it shouldn't be) by the changes they've made over the past couple years especially, certain fans of the game found that they could go back to the early days when the rules were presented as orcs were always evil and could be killed without hesitation always, and drow were another black skinned evil race like all dark skinned races in D&D were, and you had nipples showing from underneath chain mail armor and objectified women left and right, and an entire playable race was based on rape, and "no one attacked us for liking it and it was great!".So while many fans of the OSR are like you say, appreciating it for what it is while also recognizing how some of the presentation back in the 70s and 80s is problematic by today's knowledge, it seems when WoTC made the official D&D more inclusive, the element of fans who bemoan "wokeness" found a home in the OSR, and have since been taking it over as the loudest voices.  Which as I mentioned, has resulted in many of the original creators leaving OSR groups and the hobby.As a fan of the OSR, that's a shame to me.  It's similar to how I come from northern Germanic culture, and watch as my heritage is yet again being hijacked and cultural imagery used by white nationalist groups.</blockquote>

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