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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8247974" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>Something about the 40 year old cut off seems way off to me here. I started gaming in 86, am in my mid-40s. I came up through some AD&amp;D and other games, then 2E, GURPS, TORG, etc; 3E, etc. I wasn't there in the early days of the hobby (to me those were the grognards, the folks who gamed in the 70s). You are definitely going to get a very different perspective if you are dealing with someone who started in the 70s, or even with someone who started in the early 80s versus the mid to late 80s, and the 90s and so on. Overall I think it is good to have older people in a hobby who were there at various points. This is particularly true when you draw a line between tastes in Old School stuff and being a grognard. Maybe people my age and older only account for 10% of the hobby, but I see plenty of young people who like OSR material or have more old school sensibilities (or who simply like the old school elements that are in 5E). I think one lesson I took away from the 4E change, is when you have a product like D&amp;D that is meant to appeal to a broad audience, all of your demographics matter. You really can't just say 'we are going to jettison things group because they don't matter'. Doesn't mean you need to cater entirely to that group, but I think it would be a mistake to think they can grow the brand by cutting out people over 40</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8247974, member: 85555"] Something about the 40 year old cut off seems way off to me here. I started gaming in 86, am in my mid-40s. I came up through some AD&D and other games, then 2E, GURPS, TORG, etc; 3E, etc. I wasn't there in the early days of the hobby (to me those were the grognards, the folks who gamed in the 70s). You are definitely going to get a very different perspective if you are dealing with someone who started in the 70s, or even with someone who started in the early 80s versus the mid to late 80s, and the 90s and so on. Overall I think it is good to have older people in a hobby who were there at various points. This is particularly true when you draw a line between tastes in Old School stuff and being a grognard. Maybe people my age and older only account for 10% of the hobby, but I see plenty of young people who like OSR material or have more old school sensibilities (or who simply like the old school elements that are in 5E). I think one lesson I took away from the 4E change, is when you have a product like D&D that is meant to appeal to a broad audience, all of your demographics matter. You really can't just say 'we are going to jettison things group because they don't matter'. Doesn't mean you need to cater entirely to that group, but I think it would be a mistake to think they can grow the brand by cutting out people over 40 [/QUOTE]

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