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<blockquote data-quote="Toledo" data-source="post: 7623922" data-attributes="member: 6881873"><p>I was just joking about the hater business, hope that came across well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand about the concerns for GWM and sharpshooter (which is actually the big brother when the Archery style is picked). The one handed close combat weapons (including the versatile ones) can't compete for damage with regards to GWM or SS, when those are functioning well.</p><p></p><p>However, I think the GWM and SS bring the fighters/rangers/paladins (non-smiting)/barbarians into the damage range of mages and rogues. Therefore it isn't GWM/SS which are too weak, it's the fact that the one-handed versions are too weak to start with.</p><p></p><p>How about this for versatile: "Versatile weapons when used two-handed become heavy weapons." That's it.</p><p></p><p>This would allow a long sword to be used with a shield, or if the player wants to go for big damage, they could take GWM for damage. That would be D8+strength+10 if they wanted to hit hard. Still a bit less than 2D6+strength+10, but a noticeable bump. That would make Anduril and Aragorn swing very hard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toledo, post: 7623922, member: 6881873"] I was just joking about the hater business, hope that came across well. I understand about the concerns for GWM and sharpshooter (which is actually the big brother when the Archery style is picked). The one handed close combat weapons (including the versatile ones) can't compete for damage with regards to GWM or SS, when those are functioning well. However, I think the GWM and SS bring the fighters/rangers/paladins (non-smiting)/barbarians into the damage range of mages and rogues. Therefore it isn't GWM/SS which are too weak, it's the fact that the one-handed versions are too weak to start with. How about this for versatile: "Versatile weapons when used two-handed become heavy weapons." That's it. This would allow a long sword to be used with a shield, or if the player wants to go for big damage, they could take GWM for damage. That would be D8+strength+10 if they wanted to hit hard. Still a bit less than 2D6+strength+10, but a noticeable bump. That would make Anduril and Aragorn swing very hard. [/QUOTE]
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