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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reigan" data-source="post: 4923288" data-attributes="member: 67973">To oversimplify things slightly, an rpg is made up of 3 things: Character generation/level up.In-game mechanics such as combat.Roleplaying. I played 3e from 2001 to 2009, in that time I played in four campaigns, two as dm, two as player. Effectively, I only got to play two characters, one for over 5 years. So all this character choice simply was not relevant to me. What was important, considering I was stuck with the same character for many years was game play. When you do that the flaws in the rules are readily apparent, there is no getting away from them. Skill points invested in climb and swim made redundent by cheap magic, any viable combat options getting whittled down to "full attack" as nothing else works, uber spells that can completely overshadow anything you can do etc. I think a lot of people who don't have the problems with 3e like I do were able to avoid its issue by changing characters. "It doesn't matter that fighters suck because next week I'm playing a wizard". Roleplaying as very little bearing on game mechanics. At the moment, 4e is the best possible for me. Maybe if I get stuck playing my current character for another 5 years I might not feel the same way!</blockquote>