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<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 4924009" data-attributes="member: 59096"><p>Its a difference of tone. Simply stating a preference isn't an issue. A lot of the times, stating a preference in opposition to 4E takes on the tone of a political crusade. Its the political crusade that draws people to fire back, not the opinion. The political crusade got to be big enough that it became inseparatable from the opinions, and people who have simple opinions are being jumped by 4E fans responding to the political crusades.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this got so bitter that its difficult to separate things, and has been this way from almost the beginning and it hasn't healed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The issue here is that some problems can't be solved. If you prefer 3E to 4E whole cloth, than there is nothing that can be done to 4E to fix it for you. When people who prefer 3E whole cloth start posting in complaint threads, it leads to mudslinging because of a divide that cannot be bridged. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It might be running cold, but its still there. I should know, as I generally only show up for the edition wars. They're interesting, more interesting than the polite discussions. That doesn't reflect well on me, but I try to think of myself as one who doesn't start fires where none exist, but shows up to play with fires when they break out. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This flamed into an edition war, but I gave the guy XP(before the war started I might add) for pointing out that a lot of anti-4e attacks aren't motivated by a simple dislike of the system, but dissatisfaction from having a favored game being replaced by an edition a person doesn't like <strong>without saying such</strong>. Its hard to discuss simple opinions when the real issue is something unsaid in the post.</p><p></p><p></p><p>4E fans can be just as bad, as we have a tendency to respond to the edition war and not to the poster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 4924009, member: 59096"] Its a difference of tone. Simply stating a preference isn't an issue. A lot of the times, stating a preference in opposition to 4E takes on the tone of a political crusade. Its the political crusade that draws people to fire back, not the opinion. The political crusade got to be big enough that it became inseparatable from the opinions, and people who have simple opinions are being jumped by 4E fans responding to the political crusades. Again, this got so bitter that its difficult to separate things, and has been this way from almost the beginning and it hasn't healed. The issue here is that some problems can't be solved. If you prefer 3E to 4E whole cloth, than there is nothing that can be done to 4E to fix it for you. When people who prefer 3E whole cloth start posting in complaint threads, it leads to mudslinging because of a divide that cannot be bridged. It might be running cold, but its still there. I should know, as I generally only show up for the edition wars. They're interesting, more interesting than the polite discussions. That doesn't reflect well on me, but I try to think of myself as one who doesn't start fires where none exist, but shows up to play with fires when they break out. This flamed into an edition war, but I gave the guy XP(before the war started I might add) for pointing out that a lot of anti-4e attacks aren't motivated by a simple dislike of the system, but dissatisfaction from having a favored game being replaced by an edition a person doesn't like [b]without saying such[/b]. Its hard to discuss simple opinions when the real issue is something unsaid in the post. 4E fans can be just as bad, as we have a tendency to respond to the edition war and not to the poster. [/QUOTE]
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